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Zlejedi on 09 March 2011
Slimebeast said:

I wish it would be even closer to the 80 mark but 83% should still teach Bioware a lesson.


Well lower score reviews usually arrive few days late so final score should dip a bit.



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vlad321 on 09 March 2011

It's not a victim, the game genuinely deserves those scores. Though to be fair, it should be a 5 not a 4.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Alby_da_Wolf on 09 March 2011
noname2200 said:
Galaki said:


We'll see if they dumb down Diablo3...

What's to dumb down?!

Just thinking the same!    If they think console gamers need it dumbed down, then either they wildly underestimate their average IQ, or, if they are right, something horrible must have happened to 200 million brains...  =8-O   



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Slimebeast on 09 March 2011
vlad321 said:

It's not a victim, the game genuinely deserves those scores. Though to be fair, it should be a 5 not a 4.

What do u mean it should be a 5 not a 4?

And welcome back.



vlad321 on 09 March 2011
Slimebeast said:
vlad321 said:

It's not a victim, the game genuinely deserves those scores. Though to be fair, it should be a 5 not a 4.

What do u mean it should be a 5 not a 4?

And welcome back.


I mean it's an average game, not a bad one.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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Slimebeast on 09 March 2011
vlad321 said:
Slimebeast said:
vlad321 said:

It's not a victim, the game genuinely deserves those scores. Though to be fair, it should be a 5 not a 4.

What do u mean it should be a 5 not a 4?

And welcome back.


I mean it's an average game, not a bad one.

5? 4? Out of 5? Or out of 10? Or out of 100%?



JWS on 09 March 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:
noname2200 said:
Galaki said:


We'll see if they dumb down Diablo3...

What's to dumb down?!

Just thinking the same!    If they think console gamers need it dumbed down, then either they wildly underestimate their average IQ, or, if they are right, something horrible must have happened to 200 million brains...  =8-O   

I don't think its dumbed down for the console gamers. I think it's dumbed down for the FPS players. Fps are huge casual market sellers. So bioware whating to tap into the casual market made a game with lots of action,easy learning curve, no complex menus or complex leveling and a short game so the casuals don't lose intrest. I am surprised they didnt try to tack on some online or co-op to the game.

 

Also, who is to blame for this? Is it bioware or is EA forcing this on them?



Wonktonodi on 09 March 2011
leatherhat said:
AussieGecko said:
leatherhat said:

It makes much more sense that this game is just objectively bad. Occams razor folks.


mhmm explain the halo reviews and 99 percent of exclusive games, FFXIII was one of the major ones before it was released. Some people have an agenda for no reason but to slam a game. 

The most obvious reason in this case is people are bitching. Its metacritic.


But what drove those people to bitch? Probably the fact that its not a very good game and a huge step down from origins. 


What he's saying is the biggest thing that drove people to bitch is that it's exclusive. So people who don't own a system giving it bad reviews just because it's on a system that they don't own not because of the quality of the game itself.



Alby_da_Wolf on 09 March 2011
JWS said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
noname2200 said:
Galaki said:


We'll see if they dumb down Diablo3...

What's to dumb down?!

Just thinking the same!    If they think console gamers need it dumbed down, then either they wildly underestimate their average IQ, or, if they are right, something horrible must have happened to 200 million brains...  =8-O   

I don't think its dumbed down for the console gamers. I think it's dumbed down for the FPS players. Fps are huge casual market sellers. So bioware whating to tap into the casual market made a game with lots of action,easy learning curve, no complex menus or complex leveling and a short game so the casuals don't lose intrest. I am surprised they didnt try to tack on some online or co-op to the game.

 

Also, who is to blame for this? Is it bioware or is EA forcing this on them?

It makes sense. After all, consoles have, and had particularly in the past, also complex and/or deep games, they managed to have them since they gained the ability to save games or resume them from checkpoints. But do devs and publishers always forget they tried this wannabe smart trick countless times and they just managed to make RPG fans furious, while earning very little interest from FPS ones? I got nothing against simple games, a simple game can still be great and bring a lot of fun. But a dumbed down game absolutely cannot.

About the culprit, the publisher is always the main suspect for this shit...



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silicon on 09 March 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:
JWS said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
noname2200 said:
Galaki said:


We'll see if they dumb down Diablo3...

What's to dumb down?!

Just thinking the same!    If they think console gamers need it dumbed down, then either they wildly underestimate their average IQ, or, if they are right, something horrible must have happened to 200 million brains...  =8-O   

I don't think its dumbed down for the console gamers. I think it's dumbed down for the FPS players. Fps are huge casual market sellers. So bioware whating to tap into the casual market made a game with lots of action,easy learning curve, no complex menus or complex leveling and a short game so the casuals don't lose intrest. I am surprised they didnt try to tack on some online or co-op to the game.

 

Also, who is to blame for this? Is it bioware or is EA forcing this on them?

It makes sense. After all, consoles have, and had particularly in the past, also complex and/or deep games, they managed to have them since they gained the ability to save games or resume them from checkpoints. But do devs and publishers always forget they tried this wannabe smart trick countless times and they just managed to make RPG fans furious, while earning very little interest from FPS ones? I got nothing against simple games, a simple game can still be great and bring a lot of fun. But a dumbed down game absolutely cannot.

About the culprit, the publisher is always the main suspect for this shit...

I don't think it should be considered dumbing down, however I'm not aware of 100% of the changes.

I think it's really removing something that is enjoyable because it's familiar vs. keeping an old mechanic that acts as a barrier to entry or is not used by some players.