Well that’s just it people only see what they want too not what truly is there. That is my point with my other post. The GC had tons of mature content yet it was aimed at kids as some say and that is what led to it being called kiddie

Halo, a bad reputation, a lack of third party support, and, even more so than the Wii, frequent software shortages.

Gamecube was a great console, it just wasn't as beastly of a console as the PS2 but it had it's share of classic games. Heck my favorite game of all time is a gamecube game. It was probably trounced because the PS2 was a juggernaut and had a virtually endless library of amazing games, and the original xbox was developing online gaming and brought Halo into the gaming scene. 

It offered nothing new at all. Only thing that it had going for it is Nintendo games.

PS2 had hype, tons of amazing exclusives/3rd party games, DVD player, etc.

And I have no idea how Xbox beat it. I guess Halo and Xbox Live. 

In my opinion the fact that GameCube did so well in competition with X-Box is great.

I think honestly Microsoft had the name going for it. PC's dominated the industry and when Microsoft entered the industry alot of gamers expected an amazing experiance. Halo was definatly the biggest factor in Microsoft's success but it also had several big PC games exclusively on the X-Box like MechAssualt for example.

X-Box had online and GameCube didn't. X-Box Live was probably the X-Box's biggest selling feature. Developers like Lucas Arts actually refused to develop games on GameCube because Nintendo refused to give them online support. Nintendo fell out with several developers because of this and thus lost alot of mutliplatform and exclusive games.

Loss of Rare. Believe it or not RareWare was one of the biggest driving forces behind the N64. Its franchises like Conker, Banjo and Donkey Kong. Their last title for GameCube StarFox:Adventures was considered a huge failure and hurt Nintendo's reputation. Their move to Microsoft definatly hurt Nintendo, maybe not being a deciding factor in X-Box's success but it definatly did contribute to it.

The lack of classic franchises and Gameplay. Nintendo decided to launch the GameCube with Luigi's Mansion instead of a proper Mario game, Nintendo also decided early on to bring new franchises like Pikmin, Animal Crossing and CustomRobo to the market. Then instead of giving people the photo-realistic Zelda of their dreams they brough WindWaker. The core franchises were forgotten as Nintendo chose innovation over peddaling GameCube to the former Nintendo hardcore. Even Donkey Kong saw Donkey Konga games and an innovative Jungle Beat instead of classic gameplay. As Wii has proven if Nintendo had stuck to the classic gameplay that made their past consoles successful they may have sold more.

The lack of a killer App. Nintendo had several great first party titles. Many of which I prefer to anything on X-Box or PS2. But I am a Nintendo fan who loves Nintendo's games. Fact is Nintendo didn't have a single killer app. Mario Sunshine failed to become a killer ap, LOZ:WW failed to become a killer app. Even SmashBros:Melee failed to be considered a killer app. Halo was huge for Microsoft that single title helped shift millions of hardware units, but Nintendo didn't have a single title that made people say "I must have this". Nintendo had alot of AAA games but nothing that caught on with the general public.

Third party support, like the lack of classic franchises and killer apps. Third parties abandoned the GameCube early on. I remember early on Capcom commited to releasing five titles for the GameCube. However when GameCube sales wained they took for ever to release these five titles and ended up porting most of them to PS2 in the long run. Similiarly EAGames, LucasArts, Atari, Activision, RockStar all of them prefered X-Box and PS2, Nintendo did a horrible job at attracting third party support. UbiSoft  and Sega were pretty much the only publishers with some loyalty to Nintendo.

In the end those alone were several factors which lead to GameCube failing to beat Microsoft's X-Box. I agree it was a far superior console with way better first party games. But in the end Nintendo made several errors which lead to its ultimate demise!

Lack of good 3rd party games and not moving to CD medium were two big reasons.

The GC suffered from a vicious cycle.  As it's shelf space shrank, people's demand for it and it's games fell, which in tern led to shrinking shelf space in shops.

From 2004 onwards, my local GAME only had 1 set of shelf for GC, holding all new and pre-owned games and accesories.  Places like WHSmith and HMV stopped selling GC stuff in store.

I remember pre-ordering LEGO Star Wars II for the GC quite a few years ago.  When I came to collect it in store, they didn't stock any GC versions, despite my valid pre-order for the GC game.  I probably should have just settled for the PS2 version, but being a stubborn 14 year old at the time I waited the best part of the week until they got it from another one of their stores.

Thats personal opinion. Sales say otherwise. A lot of people bailed on Wind Waker. Personally I thought it was too short and too easy. It was equivalent to Star Wars: Phantom Menace - aimed towards the younger audiences. Twillight Princess was a lot more in-depth and alive.

Most definitely. I currently have a save file that almost has the 2nd time beat. My biggest problem is forgetting to save, and then I die and I have to do like 3 chapters over. Grr. But I plan on beating it on all 3 modes to finally see the full ending. I've also heard that something weird happens if you play it at 3:33 AM. Ive not tried it yet.

Hell, I'd be happy with a direct HD remake of that game next gen.

@enrageorange  it feels so good to hear someone else's appreciation for Mario Kart DD. I think the Wii one is overrated. The wheel thing is weak and the online is good, but the core game IMHO was dumbed down to attract more people, it was a smart move by Ninty but i like some kind of challenge, oh well thats what Modnation is for. I also believe the 1st party titles are better than Wii's. Until we get a proper Mario Tennis or Golf, GC>Wii

@Roma  Ninty has always had that kiddie stigma, Sega tried it with Genesis and Sony continued with PS1. THe irony is that when Ninty tried to shake it, it didnt work. N64 and GC could have done better. If i may be so bold i think Ninty is a family type company and when they embrace that (Wii) they do good, when they deny who they are they dont do so well(N64&GC). Ninty leave that hardcore stuff to the other dudes. 

I cant see how people think Wii has better 3rd party support than GC??? It has MORE no denying that, but better??? Wii gets shovelware after shovelware. Barely any core 3rd party exclusives and most of the multiplats are vastly inferior to the HD counterparts. At least with GC it had the benefit of not being the weakest on the market so it never got gimped multiplat games