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TheSource said:

That isn't true, PSP was down 40% or so in the USA in Jan - Aug 2009 vs. Jan - Aug 2008. 1.2m vs. 2.0m.

Speaking of PSP, after much searching on the Google, I was able to find PSP and PS2 numbers for November. I've edited them into the article on the front page. Hardware sales for Nov 2010 were actually up 1% from HW sales in Nov 2009 in the USA.

Spoke to Pachter too, he doesn't think X360 is going to do 2m in the USA in Dec, but he has been really conservative on his hw estimates recently. He's far more optimistic on Wii / DS than X360 though.

Did Pachter give any explanation for that 360 number? Below 2 million seems quite low for a console that did 1.37 million in November.



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koffieboon said:
TheSource said:

That isn't true, PSP was down 40% or so in the USA in Jan - Aug 2009 vs. Jan - Aug 2008. 1.2m vs. 2.0m.

Speaking of PSP, after much searching on the Google, I was able to find PSP and PS2 numbers for November. I've edited them into the article on the front page. Hardware sales for Nov 2010 were actually up 1% from HW sales in Nov 2009 in the USA.

Spoke to Pachter too, he doesn't think X360 is going to do 2m in the USA in Dec, but he has been really conservative on his hw estimates recently. He's far more optimistic on Wii / DS than X360 though.

Did Pachter give any explanation for that 360 number? Below 2 million seems quite low for a console that did 1.37 million in November.

I would imagine it all comes down to supply of Kinect Sensors.  I think they projected sale of 5 million because that is what they could produce for sale in November and December.  If I was MS I would get out that anyone who purchase a non Kinect 360 in December can register to get a coupon to purchase a Kinect sensor for $99.99.  Register by January 15th.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

I guess that makes sense. Looking at November Kinect gave a boost of 550k. (just comparing to last year). If Microsoft ships a similar number for December Xbox 360 could see a similar rise in sales for December.



One intesresting note, just in Black Friday 400k Blu Ray Players were sold

Blu-ray Disc player sales set a record for unit volume during the Black Friday week (ended Nov. 28), up more than 50% from the same period last year, according to The NPD Group.

Stephen Baker, VP of industry analysis with NPD, said more than 400,000 Blu-ray players were sold during the week as consumers gravitated toward steeply discounted models featuring Internet connectivity. The median price per unit was $113, down 23% from a median price of $145 last year.

Notably, 3D Blu-ray players accounted for 15% of the units sold.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415622

People that aren't interesing in gaming of course.



What was the sum to work out US numbers from the Americas numbers again? Was it X 0.83?

As i was just doing some number checking to see how well VGC has been tracking US numbers in comparison to NPD.

 



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TheSource said:

It depends when it declines. But after 2011 we'll likely see new consoles from somebody - Sony will be eager to go first if they're dealing with two Wiis (Wii / Kinect), and two DSs (DS / 3DS). Nintendo will be ready if Japan starts to collapse completely for Wii, or if price cuts / seasonality stop working. Microsoft will be ready if Kinect doesn't have legs or only works in USA / UK / Australia / Canada to boost hw.

By end of year we're looking at something like 84m Wiis, 50m X360s, and 47m PS3s. My impression is Move will cannibalize X360 further in Continental Europe and X360 will continue declining in Japan during 2011. Kinect will cannibalize PS3 in the USA / UK / Australia / Canada. So for 2011, Wii / PS3 will be close in Japan, Wii / X360 will be close in Americas, and in EMEAA various countries will have Wii and X360 close OR Wii and PS3 close, with Wii winning by a bigger margin overall since EMEAA preferences are split.


Let me get this straight...

You think the PS3 will outsell the 360 by around 1.2m in the next 4 weeks?    

This means you expect the PS3 to sell 3,779,506 in the next 4 weeks (best so far 2009 - 3,311,658)

and you expect the 360 to sell  2,633,855 in the next 4 weeks (best so far 2008 - 2,726,639)

That would be the best performance for the PS3 by approx 14% up, despite it tracking a tad lower than 2009 at the moment.  You are further saying that the 360 will fail to match its 2008 performance for the coming 4 weeks, depsite it tracking higher at the moment (in the last 4 weeks the 360 managed to outsell 2008 by 500,000)

I'm very confused. 

 



I'm not really here!

Link: Shipment History Since 1995


he may be speaking about shipped units...



Hyruken said:

What was the sum to work out US numbers from the Americas numbers again? Was it X 0.83?

As i was just doing some number checking to see how well VGC has been tracking US numbers in comparison to NPD.

 


0.87 but I also see 0.9 sometimes.



pezus said:
postofficebuddy said:

Black Ops (360): 4.9 million

Black Ops (PS3): 3.1 million

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31995/Exclusive_Black_Ops_For_Xbox_360_Sells_Nearly_5_Million_In_US.php


Damn!! Look at the growth for the PS3 version from MW2. Both versions are probably undertracked but the PS3 version is undertracked by a lot!

It's always the PS3 is undertracked with you guys.



Nice chart showing revenue for the month. 360 going strong.