Well... I think that Sony learned with the PS3 that launch a console at a (VERY) high price in the beggining and start after the others its not a good idea... They didnt got the hype of the PS2 era and because of those mistakes, lost the war this time. Sony have great games/franchises and a legion of fans, and is always bringing awesome franchises to its consoles(This time with LBP, Uncharted, Infamous). For me Sony will won the next war if they release something at a good price(and Backwards compatibility with PS3 would b cool as well:D).

EDIT: Bout the PSP2, put 2 analog sticks and Modern Warfare 2 Portable with nice online. IT WILL SELL A LOT IN AMERICA!!!

That.. and the neverending supply of Sonic p0rn...

Oh yeah, and hopefully  certain developers won't take forever to release a game for the PS3.

• Polphony Digital: took 4 years for GT5 (hopefully)
• Sucker Punch: took 3 years for Infamous
• Guerrilla Games: took 3 years for Killzone 2
• Team ICO: Have yet to release TLG (hopefully 2011)
• Sony Santa Monica:  took 3 to release GOW3 (Probably could have released GOW2 on PS3)
• Zipper: took 4 years to release a PS3 game (were Making PSP games)

MAG ? they're not making PSP games btw.

Correct, but Sonic Porn is a double edge sword. While it has great benefits of giving us immortality and even what some would call Super Strength it also leads to our demise. Even us Sega Fans aren't superhuman so we can only take a dose of Sonic Porn once per day. But if one of us breaks the taboo of seeing it twice, they shall suffer a fate worse then death. After one day of being exposed to a double dose of Sonic porn that Sega Fan starts to transform into a disfigured creature that looks like Sonic in his last game. On the second day is when the true problem arises. On the second day the Sega Fan becomes both so horrible and disgusting that we can only put it out of it's misery so we behead it. Of course I can only be talking about a Twilight Fangirl.

oh yeah, still took a while.

According to everyone this is still next gen and sony is still trailing. If you are talking about ps4 that is next next next gen. And since they said they are keeping this current next gen ps3 going for a while, Nintendo and Microsoft are still going to out sell sony the next next next gen.

I agree with an earlier poster, if they make it to the top again it will be due to their logistical might and tapping into as of yet under-represented markets. Its what put them on top with the PS1 so I don't see why they couldn't repeat it with the PS4.

best thread I seen since I came off mah undeserved ban...........

unlike most people...most sad....sad.........sad people, those of us with brains and who choose to use them saw what Sony's angle was with the ps3.

fanboys go: " wait what, ps3 had a purpose and was launhed with a reason my tiny fanboy mind refused to see???

Me: "yes little fanboy yes...

as everyone knows, the playstation 3 was extremely expensive, now to most at the time it was only expensive because Sony is stupid and "TEH ARROGANCE ARRRRGGGGH!!" but to the rest of us, it was because of the tech within the playstation 3, mainly being the cell processor and bluray that made the cost of production of the console to exceed over 800 dollars, see fanboys Sony was hurting themselves more than you, not very arrogant huh? But why did the CELL and BLU-RAY cost so much, well they were almost alien technology that was new to the scene. Sony took a risk on the tech that (as they kept saying but very few choose to listen) will benifit them in the !!LONG TERM!! only a moron thought Sony believed they would make profit and be fisrt place AT LAUNCH of the ps3, that was in all ways impossible, they were selling an understocked console for a more than 200 dollar loss.

Sony knew they would take a hit, a hit that they would recover from further down the line....... as they have. in 06 it must have been hard to see Sony doing any good with the ps3, fast soward to today, sony's doing good with the ps3, is it Sony "stopped teh arrogance or is doing what they said they were going to do from the start. anyway, what Sony has done with the ps3 has made it extremely easy for them with the transition to the ps4, now that expensive tech is not expensive, and the alien tech no one could handle is becoming as easy as pie to develop for, more importantly with the 3rd parties, who are now producing quality akin to sony's 1st parties.

so i predict a twice a powerful for have the cost, as the bases for the ps4, simple because of the continuing success the the big engine that could. Now my thing is, you can only beat a king on the kings terms, Sony has only dominated in the generations that they lauched at a 300 dollar price point, and with dominated being a total understatment if you know what I mean, can you picture what a afordable at lunch powerful playstaion will do to the market. see Microsoft and Nintendo have to face their true challenge seeing as Sony bascially gave them this gen...

now on to the psp.......... their is no freaking way Sony can f**k with nintendo in the handheld market, like a said, gotta beat a king on the kings terms. but while I belive in no way can Sony fuck with Nintendo in sales having sold almost 60 million handhelds is no failure, in no way shape or form, Sony's problem is having thier software match the hardware in sales. piracy is killing the psp, more so than the ds because the vast majority of psp's market is the pirate age. now I've seen some really halirious nintendo fan threads claming 3rd parties will never support psp because of the ds, one that you gilgemesh tried to talk some sense into lol. but look quality software is out of the picture, psp has some of the greatests games ever on a handheld.

what I purpose Sony do with the psp is creat a powerful, profitable, unhackable, dual analoge psp. the games are thier they just need to sell, stop the piracy and sales you will have, now as far as console movers go Sony's ace in a hole is thier first parties, If I were sony I would market the psp as the hardcore handheld with miniture versions of thier best console franchises, uncharted, lbp, GT, killzone, etc. the better controls via dual analoge they would get alot of support. you don't have to outsell nintendo to be successful in the handheld  market.

on a side note of handheld analogue sticks..................... something that struck me odd as there wasnt a billion threads made.......

is.........is..........is that an analogue stick on the 3ds??????? wait *looks at previous nintendo handheld models...no anaologue* wait......wait...... does this mean O_o.....no it can't be.......did........did............TEH INNOVATORZ!!!!......c-...cop......copy...............SONY O_O no...... no....... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *universe explodes, time undo's itself and everyone cease to exist* or............... the fucking world goes on and no one gives a shit , 

see nintendo fans everyone does it. or now does this mean Nintendo is nothing but a copy cat and never ever ever innovated anything ever in the history of ever.......

funny black saber, but also true. Order 66 called for the annihilation of all Sega console fans.

glad i got out and left Sega when i did!