I know that the CON is not determined by the gender but often in Fire Emblem the guy have more CON than girl. Check this faq (near the end) and check the CON comparaison. http://www.gamefaqs.com/gba/468480-fire-emblem/faqs/29563

General And Paladin guy have ALWAYS more CON that their girl conterpart. ALMOST all guy have more CON. And if the developper have program a game in a way that the girl have less chance to do a double attack (which is deadly in fire emblem) than is just pure sexist.

No, that's a strawman (and that goes for you, too, Weegee).

What I am saying is that a realistic take on a male/female character takes the general characteristics of human gender roles into account. A story does not exist in a vacum - it extends to, and is inspired by, the world, and must therefore reflect it.

I played Odin Sphere recently; George Kitami could well be critizised in some respects, but I still think very highly of his portrayal (or rather, characterization) of women, mainly because it, on the whole, makes sense - and thematically, it is quite brilliant. I won't spoil the excellent ending and the thematics thereof, but I will say the women in this game are women (without being weak or frail, i.e. stereotyped), yet in the game, one of the leading femes foils the plans of her insurgent cousin; the other two break free of their respective father/grandfather's influence. An ostensibly feminist creed, would you not agree?

I'll deal with Weegee separately.

Your opinion is off-base. The creation myth being centered around maternal figures isn't sexist, nor is the ultimate conflict centering around two distinctly female deities sexist. That can't be sexist on its own. The Queen's skill is there so you can train up the weaker units (since she's incredibly overpowered when first introduced), and is easily removed. That's not sexist, it's a matter of utility and easily changed.

You have Sothe's relationship with Micaiah backwards - he needs her, not the other way around, and "protects" her out of a sense of devotion. He acknowledges (and so does she) that he needs shielding from the world just as much as she does, and if one of them is dependent on the other then it's Sothe who is dependent on Micaiah.

Yes, Lucia can also get SS if she becomes a Trueblade. Are you sure you played?

Micaiah is a fine character and one of the best mages for a very big portion of the game, never being outright outclassed until the finale, and that's only on Maniac mode.

Who do you mean by "the gay ninja"? Sothe? Volke? Neither of them is gay. Neither of them fulfill a role that's appropriate for replacing Micaiah, and neither of them are as good at murdering armored enemies (well, Volke can be).

I'll deal with Weegee separately.

Your opinion is off-base. The creation myth being centered around maternal figures isn't sexist, nor is the ultimate conflict centering around two distinctly female deities sexist. That can't be sexist on its own. The Queen's skill is there so you can train up the weaker units (since she's incredibly overpowered when first introduced), and is easily removed. That's not sexist, it's a matter of utility and easily changed.

You have Sothe's relationship with Micaiah backwards - he needs her, not the other way around, and "protects" her out of a sense of devotion. He acknowledges (and so does she) that he needs shielding from the world just as much as she does, and if one of them is dependent on the other then it's Sothe who is dependent on Micaiah.

Yes, Lucia can also get SS if she becomes a Trueblade. Are you sure you played?

Micaiah is a fine character and one of the best mages for a very big portion of the game, never being outright outclassed until the finale, and that's only on Maniac mode.

Who do you mean by "the gay ninja"? Sothe? Volke? Neither of them is gay. Neither of them fulfill a role that's appropriate for replacing Micaiah, and neither of them are as good at murdering armored enemies (well, Volke can be)

i was not talking about the conflict, I was talking about the ending. The godess is wrong, Ike kills her (OT why?!? I wanted Mica to kills her! Ike got his game in FE10), then Ike makes a morale to the innocent loli goddess. The freaking barbarian mercenarie?! Making a morale to a goddess?! But again, it's my opinion.

The skill is for that?! When you get Ike, he's freaking overpower! Why he didnt have that?

Lucia too, but the others can't? First, why can't girls be SS? YES, I played it, unfortunatly... I finished it once and I never played it again.

Micaiah sucks, she's the best mage, but in this FE, mages are weak. I didnt played maniac mode, and I never will 'O'

Sorry about the gay ninja, I should have said ultra metro ninja.

For the relationship between Mica and Sothe, it's just a stereotyped relation. I forgot that part about shielding each other, but still, a emo ninja kid trying to defend her loli is a perfect cliché anime story. Plus, if I remember well, they're like brother and sisters right?

Anyway, I was wrong, it's not super sexist, but it IS sexist, what do you think?

I Know that Lucia can get SS when she trueblade but Zihark can have SS before be a Trueblade (Don't know about Mya). Why Lucia can't get SS when she a SwordMaster ?

And Micaiah her stats are alright at first, but the growths are horrible. HP is bad , speed is awful and is Def is one of the worst of the game. I don't want to talk about her skill.

And maybe Sothe need Micaiah ( don't know why ) but Micaiah is the little Damsel in distress and Sothe is here to protect her same thing with the Black Knight. (Japanese always think that every girl need protection.)

Is there a guy who need protection from a girl ? Never saw this in fire emblem.

I tend to agree with you, here, though I think it bears clarifying that an acknowledgment of certain qualities inherent to observed tendencies of either gender (or, beyond that, qualities which are considered inherent to the gender itself, like the difference between maternal and paternal love) does not preclude qualities that are considered masculine.

My favrotie example here is probably Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic II: she's an immensely maternal figure in many ways, intrinsically female in ways that will uncomfortably remind many players of their own mothers, but she's also a nihilistic embodiment of Nietzsche's rejection of man's reliance on God.

I think the message here is that it is okay to have characters like Commander Shepard, who is (mostly, excludingn how they approach romance) the same whether male or female, so long as tey do not represent the entire spectrum of female portrayals.

Gwendolyn and Oswald was one of my favorite love stories from that year, for the record.

The goddess Ashunera previously destroyed the world - knowing that mortals will hold her responsible for her actions is abou the relationship between mortals and deities, not men and women. If you want ot spin it that way, then it only makes sense that a mother should have to take responsibility for her children and what they do and how she treats them. Again. That's not sexist. At this point I think you're confused as to what constitutes sexism.

Ike doesn't have the skill because the entirety of the Greill Mercenary group is extremely powerful, and don't need babying like Elincia's crew. Ike is about par for te course in the context of the Greil, but Elincia is way, waaaaaay more powerful than anyone else in her faction. That's the difference between them, even if Elincia's stats don't match up to Ike's directly (though her ability to kill, in early missions, does).

....Listen. All women can get to SS weapon levels. Jesus Christ, are you not listening? Lucia and Mia are the only female swordmasters! They can get to SS! All female characters can get to SS! All female characters can get to SS.

Mages are only weak in this FE if you can't use them properly. Micaiah doesn't suck unless you don't know how to use her. As a unit of utility she is immensely useful for a big portion of the game.

And no, they're not. Sothe loves Micaiah because she protected him and sheltered him from a harmful world. That's why they end up getting married if their support rank is high enough.

No, it's not sexist. I think that you're predisposed toward seeing sexism where there may be none.

Oh, most assuredly - it stands, for me, without saying. The problem, as you so eloquently put it, is not the precence of masculine traits, but the general lack of feminine ones (outside of a few stereotypes), in modern depictions of female characters.

I think it is unfair to bring up Kreia as an example; she makes everyone else look bad by comparsion. However, I will ad that I find the fact that she is so discerning and critical of the other characters' gender roles adding something important to the game as well; not just in terms of her character, but the entire cast. Poor Atton, 'the fool dancing in your shadow'. I do not remember if she says that if you are female (likely she does), but even as a male, it functions is a comment on the conflict of the male bravado (or freedom of spirit) and subjugation towards your superiors - which, as you know, is an  essential part of Atton's character.

And I'm glad to hear you played Odin Sphere; it's a great game. I was more of a Cornelius and Velvet man, myself (maybe I just have a thing for bunnies). I'm currently playing through Final Fantasy XII (I bought a PS2 only recently) as per your general recomendation, in fact. We'll see how that turns out.

Okay, first I'll stop talking about sexism because we don't see it in the same way. And don't tell me that I'm scared to talk or anything, I just don't understand why we are talking about her children and all. I was talking about the way she was wrong and than the young goddess is innoncent at a point she needs a mortal (Ike) and that Mica sucks. You just always says that I don't understand what sexism is. I know what it is, and I don't care if you don't beleive me. You are just more tolerant than me.

About Ike and Elincia, admit it, Ike is superior. I don't care if his crew are stronger or anything, he IS the most overpower unit in the game.

Mages sucks, and no, Mica is not usefull. Her skill is laughable.

Mmm, are you sure, if you still have the game, check in the instruction booklet.

Now, let's return to the topic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMC4J8wqOw&feature=related