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Tuganuno said:

This isn't a hate thread, he just said that Nintendo is gamerscritic-proof. And he's correct.

Besides that, some people aren't even trying to argue with him or understand his point, they're just saying "your ass is sore of E3".

He's objectively, quantifiably wrong, and so are you if you agree with him. Nintendo has gotten mroe hate than any company this gen. If you are of the opinion that people shoud be able to hate on a company without baclash.... well, that's rather one-sided, now innit?



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RolStoppable said:

If you tell yourself something that is wrong often enough, then eventually you will start to believe it. I've noticed that a lot of criticism directed at Nintendo works off of the basic premise that Microsoft and especially Sony make games of the same, if not better quality than Nintendo.

But anyway, I think what is triggering all these strange reactions right after E3 is the realization that Sony has lost to Nintendo again (now for the third time in a row) and that this time even before Sony could make a move.


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@OP: IMO it's split amoungst the Big Three the amount of citizism, but when you have vocal "journlist" (Morgan Webb, Damon Hatfield, to name a few) that HATE everything Nintendo, it rings a teeny bit hollow when you say that Nintendo is ALWAYS praised.

...Rolstoppable put it best with the bolded. *shrugs*



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Tuganuno said:
Soriku said:
Tuganuno said:

See? This is what he was talking about. He says something not-good about Nintendo and 5 mins later "Nintendo Defense Force" is bullying him. You've done what he expected and now he's completely right.


Umm...you can say the same thing for Sony and MS fans too. If anyone made a thread like this for Sony or MS you think they wouldn't get bashed? Not likely.

This isn't a hate thread, he just said that Nintendo is gamerscritic-proof. And he's correct.

Besides that, some people aren't even trying to argue with him or understand his point, they're just saying "your ass is sore of E3".

You mean critic-proof now?  When you are Nintendo, and you bring your revamped versions of franchises people loved from the past, and eager to see, it ends up being hard to want to be critical of them.   They got fragged RUTHLESSLY by the critics, and gamers, and game media when the Wii was announced and the press conference that Wii Music was announced at.  The level of criticism thrown at them then is what I am seeing now regarding Microsoft and Kinect.  People make fun of the animal game, and claim the videos are faked.  They are ruthless at them.

Why does Nintendo seem immune now?  Well, they offer what seems to be the most leading edge technology in the form of 3D without glasses.  And then combine it with the comfort level of franchises people have loved.  This is like someone who came in with a litters of puppies and kittens.  You are so emotionally affected by them, you aren't going to be as critical of them, and you certain don't want no sourpusses to affect your mood.



I have a question. OP mention, that Ninty basically doesn't have new any new IP's for 3DS...hell in General...But when they do create ones, i.e: Fling Smash, Wii Series, Steel Diver, Xenoblade, etc...How come they are over looked?

...Is it because they are IP's no one wants?



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...Imagine how boring the interweb would be if everyone thought logically?

senortaco said:

I have a question. OP mention, that Ninty basically doesn't have new any new IP's for 3DS...hell in General...But when they do create ones, i.e: Fling Smash, Wii Series, Steel Diver, Xenoblade, etc...How come they are over looked?

...Is it because they are IP's no one wants?

Due to how the industry has matured, it is now hard to suddenly announce a new IP into the market, and expect it to be something someone wants.  Look, for example, how many people are yelling for an update to Final Fantasy VII, for example.  What excites people now is to play what they know in new ways that excite.



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richardhutnik said:
senortaco said:

I have a question. OP mention, that Ninty basically doesn't have new any new IP's for 3DS...hell in General...But when they do create ones, i.e: Fling Smash, Wii Series, Steel Diver, Xenoblade, etc...How come they are over looked?

...Is it because they are IP's no one wants?

Due to how the industry has matured, it is now hard to suddenly announce a new IP into the market, and expect it to be something someone wants.  Look, for example, how many people are yelling for an update to Final Fantasy VII, for example.  What excites people now is to play what they know in new ways that excite.

This is way I ask the good peeps of VG! Thank you.



The Interweb is about overreaction, this is what makes it great!

...Imagine how boring the interweb would be if everyone thought logically?

senortaco said:
richardhutnik said:
senortaco said:

I have a question. OP mention, that Ninty basically doesn't have new any new IP's for 3DS...hell in General...But when they do create ones, i.e: Fling Smash, Wii Series, Steel Diver, Xenoblade, etc...How come they are over looked?

...Is it because they are IP's no one wants?

Due to how the industry has matured, it is now hard to suddenly announce a new IP into the market, and expect it to be something someone wants.  Look, for example, how many people are yelling for an update to Final Fantasy VII, for example.  What excites people now is to play what they know in new ways that excite.

This is way I ask the good peeps of VG! Thank you.


Welcome (I think).  It is amazing how people say they want new, but when the old stuff comes out, people jump all over it.  The industry is now driven to create franchises that it can milk as cashcows.  Outside of Indie games, I don't see companies funding projects to be done, unless they can produce a sequel for it later on.



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Khuutra said:
Tuganuno said:

This isn't a hate thread, he just said that Nintendo is gamerscritic-proof. And he's correct.

Besides that, some people aren't even trying to argue with him or understand his point, they're just saying "your ass is sore of E3".

He's objectively, quantifiably wrong, and so are you if you agree with him. Nintendo has gotten mroe hate than any company this gen. If you are of the opinion that people shoud be able to hate on a company without baclash.... well, that's rather one-sided, now innit?


So, just because Nintendo got hated in the past, we can't criticize it now? And I'm honestly not understanding how Nintendo is the victim. They've made tons of money with the console that everyone criticized, while Sony had huge losses with the console that everyone said it would be the future of gaming. So as you can see, words meant nothing, or better yet, words did nothing.

richardhutnik said:
Tuganuno said:
Soriku said:
Tuganuno said:

See? This is what he was talking about. He says something not-good about Nintendo and 5 mins later "Nintendo Defense Force" is bullying him. You've done what he expected and now he's completely right.


Umm...you can say the same thing for Sony and MS fans too. If anyone made a thread like this for Sony or MS you think they wouldn't get bashed? Not likely.

This isn't a hate thread, he just said that Nintendo is gamerscritic-proof. And he's correct.

Besides that, some people aren't even trying to argue with him or understand his point, they're just saying "your ass is sore of E3".

You mean critic-proof now?  When you are Nintendo, and you bring your revamped versions of franchises people loved from the past, and eager to see, it ends up being hard to want to be critical of them.   They got fragged RUTHLESSLY by the critics, and gamers, and game media when the Wii was announced and the press conference that Wii Music was announced at.  The level of criticism thrown at them then is what I am seeing now regarding Microsoft and Kinect.  People make fun of the animal game, and claim the videos are faked.  They are ruthless at them.

Why does Nintendo seem immune now?  Well, they offer what seems to be the most leading edge technology in the form of 3D without glasses.  And then combine it with the comfort level of franchises people have loved.  This is like someone who came in with a litters of puppies and kittens.  You are so emotionally affected by them, you aren't going to be as critical of them, and you certain don't want no sourpusses to affect your mood.

Then I think we agree lol Plus that's a great analogy. Even if the puppies mess up your house, you'll still think they're cute, so you won't mind. Just like Nintendo: even tho it might have (slight) flaws, everyone will still love 'em. All the OP said is that the puppies aren't as perfect as everyone say they are. And I agree with that, don't you?



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