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RolStoppable said:
Let's not forget that you can hop in most Mario Kart games which can be very helpful at times. Platforming at its best.

Seriously, in Super Mario Kart on tracks like Bowser Castle 1, you can save time by jumping over the ramps and the gap behind them. That's some tricky platforming.



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As a gamer since the SNES days, I'd like to say that the platforming genre has been consistently defined by 4 titles:

Mario - Nintendo
Mega Man - Capcom
Castlevania - Konami
Sonic - Sega

I've yet to see any other definitive faces in the genre as of late. There's just something about these classics that really make them king. Simplicity and design perhaps?



Khuutra said:
CGI-Quality said:
Khuutra said:
There is no sane metric by which Sony and Nintendo can be compared when it comes to platformers. I love LBP, it's one of my favorite multiplayer games this generation, but as a platformer it is lacking and one really great game doesn't stack up against the kind of stuff Nintendo throws in our faces every single year.

Even people who don't love 3D Mario, LIKE ROLSTOPPABLE, would be hard-pressed to say anything except "Yes it is better than any platformer that has come out of Sony"

But again, he didn't say that Sony has better platformers than Nintendo, or that their IPs are equal. He said they have the best, as in the two companies as a whole put out the best in the genre.

Is it debatable, of course. Would most argue that Nintendo is at the top, nope, and I'd agree. Of course Sony doesn't have the same achievements in the genre as Nintendo, but DO have some memorable games in the genre nonetheless.

 

Now if the OP meant that Sony = Nintendo when it comes to platformers, I'd argue with him all the way to the very last drop. He should clarify.

I agree he should clarify, but there'd be two problems if that's what he meant:

1. Capcom has not been slacking for platformers this gen, surprisingly

2. Naming the top two instead of, like, ranking the two five or something implies that the top two are kind of equivalent.

Until he clarifies, though, I will let it lie as per your example.

Here is the problem though. Even if OP doesn't clarify, CGI is arguing that Sony is a clear cut #2 platformer producer while others sare saying Sony is nowhere near #2 since Capcom/Sega/Rare is better.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

The Ghost of RubangB said:
I think in another thread I said that the Four Pillars of Platforming Perfection were Mario, Mega Man, Sonic, and Donkey Kong. Nobody disagreed with me, so it's true. I don't see a Sony franchise on that list. It looks like Nintendo, Capcom, Sega, and Nintendo/Rare to me.


If you think Sony's platformers are on par with Nintendo's, I must ask what your favorite 2-D platformers and 3-D paltformers that they developed are. They didn't develop LittleBigPlanet.

No no no, I claimed Sonic, Mario and Megaman as the 3 platform Kings which everybody agreed to then you kept modifying to add DK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platformer
The problem I see is that most of our games today have several mixed genres making older genres like the Platformer, and RPG more obscured with its definition.



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saicho said:
Khuutra said:
CGI-Quality said:
Khuutra said:
There is no sane metric by which Sony and Nintendo can be compared when it comes to platformers. I love LBP, it's one of my favorite multiplayer games this generation, but as a platformer it is lacking and one really great game doesn't stack up against the kind of stuff Nintendo throws in our faces every single year.

Even people who don't love 3D Mario, LIKE ROLSTOPPABLE, would be hard-pressed to say anything except "Yes it is better than any platformer that has come out of Sony"

But again, he didn't say that Sony has better platformers than Nintendo, or that their IPs are equal. He said they have the best, as in the two companies as a whole put out the best in the genre.

Is it debatable, of course. Would most argue that Nintendo is at the top, nope, and I'd agree. Of course Sony doesn't have the same achievements in the genre as Nintendo, but DO have some memorable games in the genre nonetheless.

 

Now if the OP meant that Sony = Nintendo when it comes to platformers, I'd argue with him all the way to the very last drop. He should clarify.

I agree he should clarify, but there'd be two problems if that's what he meant:

1. Capcom has not been slacking for platformers this gen, surprisingly

2. Naming the top two instead of, like, ranking the two five or something implies that the top two are kind of equivalent.

Until he clarifies, though, I will let it lie as per your example.

Here is the problem though. Even if OP doesn't clarify, CGI is arguing that Sony is a clear cut #2 platformer producer while others sare saying Sony is nowhere near #2 since Capcom/Sega/Rare is better.

He would still need to clarify. If we're talking this gen, yes, Sony and Nintendo have lead the charge. If we're talking in general, Sony is 3rd or 4th, far behind Sega & Nintendo for sure.



                                                                                                                                            

eh Nintendo Is The BEST i dont know about Sony.



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

whoever said Uncharted and Infamous are platformers need to really edit out those posts.... very embarrassing



I live for the burn...and the sting of pleasure...
I live for the sword, the steel, and the gun...

- Wasteland - The Mission.

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is a platformer.
It said so right on the box with the main character standing on a platform holding his sword.



3rd or 4th overall? How many platformers have you played? lol.

I'd put but at least Capcom, Sega, Konami, Namco, Hudson, Tecmo, Taito and Treasure ahead of them.  Probably more if I really thought about it, there were tons of companies producing amazing platformers in the 8/16bit days.  Hell, I'd even say Sony's beast platformer came from then (SkyBlazer).

 

I'd also say Capcom is 2nd this gen, no question.  Thing is, all their good stuff is on the download services (MM9/10, BC ReArmed) or handhelds (UGNG, MM/X remakes, ZX/Advent).