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Edge vs. Metacritic (Bias Confirmed!!!)

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Scoobes said:
Cypher1980 said:
That is the most retarded bit of research I've ever seen.

No offence to the OP but you must see how many errors are introduced by the study method.

Restricting any sample to a portion of total compromises any study.

The study proved a few things but it DOESNT prove the startlingly bold final conclusion.

I take it you plan on never taking any new medications if you're sick then? Considering that for a new drug to get past phase III clinical trials you typically only need around 5000 people out of millions, potentially billions of customers I can't imagine you'd trust any drug until it'd been on the market for at least 10 years.

Its not the size its just that for my money, its an unrepresentative sample (I should have been clearer)

The games that score low on metacritic are just as valid an entry as those that score highly.

To use the sample as the basis for the conclusion is risable.

 



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Edge is strict, and I like that. What I don't like about it is that they are strict for the wrong reasons. They are amazingly biased.



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milkyjoe said:
Without wanting to state the obvious, but in order for the metacritic average to be created, there has to be some review scores above the mean, and there has to be some review scores below it. It's how it works.

Are the ones above just as biased as the ones below?

Ofcourse there has to be some above and below the average, but the problem here is that the Xbox exclusives are pretty much on par with their Metacritics, or close to, while PS3 exclusives are good deal below and it seems to make a trend.

I wouldn't consider it a problem, if both were either higher or lower, but there is a significant difference between these two. The difference is the problem, not the fact that some are above and some below.



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ElRhodeo said:
aragod said:
ElRhodeo said:
Hm, another possible explanation is that Edge isn't biased, they just thought the PS3 games were worse than the 360 games. Shock!

That's called a 'result', something that comes AFTER examining / testing.
'Bias' means judging BEFORE you tried it.

You know, according to your (very popular) definition of 'bias', any comparison that doesn't result in "all contestants are equally good" is biased. That's pointless.

Sorry but your explanation is complete bs.

The point is that EDGE is rating PS3 exclusives with bigger difference than XBox exclusives COMPARED to industry standart. It's like saying that Xbox games are better because EDGE "agrees" with the whole industry, but PS3 games are worse, because EDGE is "off" the industry standart. That makes absolutly no sense whatsoever.

Also bias is universal, there is noone and nothing completly unbiased, because bias is a part of underlying social structure affected by many factors which can't be empiricali studyied. There is a whole science which is trying to find these non-visible functions, called Structuralism. Noone is unbiased, therefore the question is:

How much biased you are?

Nice try, turning the bias claim towards me. Actually I am pretty unbiased is this case, cause I don't care for either of the 2 systems. 

Apart from that: You're absolutely right, everybody is "biased". EDGE's job is to give their opinion on the games they test. All I was trying to say is this:
Even if they DO think that Xbox games are better than Playstation games on average, that's a legitimate result. I think it's a plague that people started comparing every review score to the Metacritic average, labeling those 'wrong' who differ. If you don't allow a magazine to have their opinion, why bother reading them? 

I'm not turning the bias towards you, I was just trying to point out my thought in a public speech figure.

And again, if they think that Xbox games are on average tier of quality above PS3 games, than that's a negative bias towards the PS3. There is no way to justify it or explain it. The only option is that they either prefer the Xbox significantly, or they are using double meter.



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Instead of making such a long thread you could've just learned that Edge actually judge on a 1-10 scale instead of 6-10.



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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Instead of making such a long thread you could've just learned that Edge actually judge on a 1-10 scale instead of 6-10.

Instead of posting such a retarded oftopic reply you could've read the opening post.



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It might not be perfect, but you can still garner an interesting perspective from it.

Also, restricting it to the top 30 exclusive games may well not be giving it enough of a sample size, but it's also restricting it to the most influential exclusive games that probably sell the most and define the given platform. Add in the ones some are complaining are missing and the results change little to none.

You'd need stronger evidence then that to call Edge out on an inherent bias. But it's enough to show that in general, they score the top 360 exclusives closer to the average score, and the top PS3 exclusives below it.



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aragod said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Instead of making such a long thread you could've just learned that Edge actually judge on a 1-10 scale instead of 6-10.

Instead of posting such a retarded oftopic reply you could've read the opening post.

But it's not off-topic. This is the same shit that goes on every time Edge review a new game and don't give it a 10. Yeah, they didn't think it was worth a 10. So what if they haven't given any game on the PS3 a 10? A 8 is a great game, even moreso when it comes from Edge. To be quite frank, people need to shut the hell up and accept that Edge don't work like others do.



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