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i don’t get it....



xxbrothawizxx63 said:

I agree with the title, but not for the reason you mentioned.

I really cant understand how someone can agree with title when fact is that Switch is totally opposite of Wii U espacily when comes to reasons why Wii U failed.

Everything that OP wrote don't have anything with reality, only that can be true is that he dont like Nintendo Switch offer of games.



Miyamotoo said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

I agree with the title, but not for the reason you mentioned.

I really cant understand how someone can agree with title when fact is that Switch is totally opposite of Wii U espacily when comes to reasons why Wii U failed.

Everything that OP wrote don't have anything with reality, only that can be true is that he dont like Nintendo Switch offer of games.

OK, fine. 

They learned the one rule they should have already known: A good 1P lineup sells Nintendo hardware.  And they had to sacrifice an entire platform to do it. Wii U suffered because Nintendo got a wake up call when the 3DS struggled and they were completely new to HD development. The Switch still has a gimmick. It's better, but Wii U's wasn't as terrible as people like to say especailly when you consider the fact that many people play their Switch in the exact same use case that would have made the Wii the more optimal setup (handheld around the house, TV mode on the couch). 

Oh, and the marketing is way better, but so was Wii's vs WiiU so this is kinda just random. 3DS's commercials at the time weren't that great either. 

Everything else they've messed up again though. 

Last edited by xxbrothawizxx63 - on 15 September 2018

xxbrothawizxx63 said:
Miyamotoo said:

I really cant understand how someone can agree with title when fact is that Switch is totally opposite of Wii U espacily when comes to reasons why Wii U failed.

Everything that OP wrote don't have anything with reality, only that can be true is that he dont like Nintendo Switch offer of games.

OK, fine. 

They learned the one rule they should have already known: A good 1P lineup sells Nintendo hardware.  And they had to sacrifice an entire platform to do it. Wii U suffered because Nintendo got a wake up call when the 3DS struggled and they were completely new to HD development. The Switch still has a gimmick. It's better, but Wii U's wasn't as terrible as people like to say especailly when you consider the fact that many people play their Switch in the exact same use case that would have made the Wii the more optimal setup (handheld around the house, TV mode on the couch). 

Oh, and the marketing is way better, but so was Wii's vs WiiU so this is kinda just random. 3DS's commercials at the time weren't that great either. 

Everything else they've messed up again though. 

One thing!?

-Wii U had terrible marketing and branding, people massively thought that Wii U is some kind addon for Wii. Switch has great marketing and branding.

-Wii U didnt had appealing concept and actually made a lot of confusion. Switch has great concept that aims home console and handheld fans in same time.

-Wii U didnt had not single one big system seller game in its hole 1st year. Switch had 4 of them (Zelda BotW, MK8D, Splatoon2 and Mario Odyssey).

-Wii U had huge software droughts, we have literally months without one single release. Switch didnt had any software drought.

-Nintendo with Wii U done terrible job when we talking about support, communication, informations, engine support, tools, APIs...regardless development. With Switch Nintendo made platforms thats very easy to work with, has great tools, engine support, APIs and has much better communication with 3rd parties.

-Wii u left out almost hole 3rd party support in its 1st year, Switch is getting increased 3rd party support how time passing.

 

Wii U being worst selling Nintendo consoles is not by accident, people just don't realise how much huge mistakes Nintendo made with Wii U. But Switch is totally opposite of Wii U, they done rigth all things that were bad on Wii U, Switch is very similar to Wii when you look at big picture.

Ofcourse, Switch is not perfect, and Nintendo is still doing some not good decisions, like that voice chat, online, still no VC games...but fact is that those are important things that effects popularity, sales and success of Switch, sales proves that, there is reason why Switch sold out Wii U LT numbers in less than one year and why will be pass 30m already in less than 2 years on market.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 15 September 2018

You bought two games? That's exactly 2 more games on Switch than I bought. Looking forward to Luigi's Mansion 3, but really want Prime 4 and Bayo 3. Hoping to get an X-2 at some point too. As of now I got a whopping two games. Xenoblade 2 (most disappointing game ever for me), and Splatoon 2.



Pretty sure i see this thread every couple of months.

I think we need to wait a bit and see, if they don't bring a big new Metroid/Pokemon i think that they would have made some mistakes.

And the online is also too late.



EricFabian said:
well, you are wrong... and that's it

This pretty much says all that needs to be said.



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I would say their current online plan is a lot similar to how their approach with various Wii U initiatives.

But in terms of games, unless you only buy Nintendo games or big name third party multi platform games that haven't been on Nintendo platforms since the GC, the idea that there isn't anything to play in the system is absurd. Now so far it is mainly a JRPG and side scroller machine but you have plenty of games in different genres to choose from.



bigtakilla said:
You bought two games? That's exactly 2 more games on Switch than I bought. Looking forward to Luigi's Mansion 3, but really want Prime 4 and Bayo 3. Hoping to get an X-2 at some point too. As of now I got a whopping two games. Xenoblade 2 (most disappointing game ever for me), and Splatoon 2.

I wonder what will you think if X-2 have the art style even more anime looking than Xenoblade 2