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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Nintendo Did Not Learn Anything from the Wii U's Failure.

Wow what is this thread? Nintendo has no games? Really? Sry, but people that blame Nintendo should think about the type of support they're asking for? Smash, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Mario, Splatoon and Zelda releasing yearly, because they are their biggest ips? That's a nightmare from my perspective. We have right now Fire Emblem Three Houses, Yoshis Crafted World, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros. Super Mario Party, 2 Pokemon games (one new gen), new Game Freak IP called Towns, Luigis Mension 3, Metroid Prime 4 and bayonetta 3 exclusively in development. If this looks bare bones to anyone...I don't know why they are even interested in Nintendo systems. Knowing that a new Zelda, Star Fox Racing game, new Monolith Soft Ip, Pikmin 4 and Mario game has been probably in development for a while now.

Despite first party there are a lot of second party titles, coming exclusively to Switch. New Shin Megami Tensei, Daemon X Machina, Yokai Watch 4 or the new Ace Attorney Game & Layton games naming a few. This is a gigantic lineup compared with the Wii U era.

Last edited by Teno - on 18 September 2018

SpokenTruth said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

Switch is benefiting from being the single platform they have to focus on. Honestly, the numbers don't seem all that impressive to me when you consider that in prior gens they've had two successful platform they were supporting.

What numbers don't seem impressive?  Fastest selling Nintendo (or any company) game device ever in multiple countries is not impressive?

Hang on...are you comparing Wii + DS and/or Wii U + 3DS to Switch?

I don’t like the fallacy that the Switch will be deemed less successful in people’s eyes if it doesn’t reach the combined hardware sales of a previous generation’s home console and handheld. It leaves out do many more important factors, chief among them the facts that Nintendo is no longer splitting R&D and marketing costs across two or three consoles, game development across two or three different consoles, or splitting its playerbase across two or three different consoles. Those are much more important for long-term health and sustainability than the raw number of hardware units sold. 



burninmylight said:
SpokenTruth said:

What numbers don't seem impressive?  Fastest selling Nintendo (or any company) game device ever in multiple countries is not impressive?

Hang on...are you comparing Wii + DS and/or Wii U + 3DS to Switch?

I don’t like the fallacy that the Switch will be deemed less successful in people’s eyes if it doesn’t reach the combined hardware sales of a previous generation’s home console and handheld. It leaves out do many more important factors, chief among them the facts that Nintendo is no longer splitting R&D and marketing costs across two or three consoles, game development across two or three different consoles, or splitting its playerbase across two or three different consoles. Those are much more important for long-term health and sustainability than the raw number of hardware units sold. 

This.



People's tastes in games vary widely. What you like and I like are clearly different. I currently have 12 games and only 1 I wish I didn't buy (Bomberman). I also paid for the family online subscription for primarily the 20 NES games and the overall growing older console library that will come with that subscription. The online play and cloud storage was a bonus for me. (yes i also own both classic consoles)

I see a few other games coming in 2018 I intend on buying and at least 2 so far in 2019.

There is definitely content. However, I do admit that I expected this Fall to begin clear support for the typically yearly released games that end up on everything and that hasn't happened. I understand EA as they simply don't like Nintendo so we're only going to see FIFA which is likely due to whatever agreement they have with FIFA. In the end, it really doesn't matter as there are plenty of other games and I personally don't buy those titles anyways.



I agree about the lack of interesting games. But from my experience that means it’s following the failure of the Wii.

Wii sold great but it had a real lack of interesting games. After Zelda and galaxy it was a boring console for a while at least in my opinion. Yea it got a Mario kart and smash. A Metroid. Eventually another Metroid. I remember the first two years going to the store and not wanting to buy any of the offerings. Very disappointing.

With the GameCube and Wii U, I was buying around ten games a year. Nearly every month I was soaking with anticipation. Those consoles sold poorly but I was getting what I wanted. So for me, I can’t base a Nintendo consoles “success” on whether I’m getting games I want but rather I have to judge it on if it’s attracting a broader audience.



God, whenever these threads pop up they all look the same, I thought this was a necrobump. The Switch is fine.



Jason didn't learn anything from the Switch's success.



Snoorlax said:
jason1637 said:

FF7 is another old game. I've played it already and dont understand why people are so hyped to rebuy a game they probably already own on multiple systems.

Of course it's old, but now you'll be able to play it one the go!!

How many PS4 players don't get excited to pay 60$ for Shadow of the Colossus for the 3rd time? I don't see you complain about PS4's insane library of ports and remasters.

None. Cause the game was and is still priced $40.



globalisateur said:
Snoorlax said:

Of course it's old, but now you'll be able to play it one the go!!

How many PS4 players don't get excited to pay 60$ for Shadow of the Colossus for the 3rd time? I don't see you complain about PS4's insane library of ports and remasters.

None. Cause the game was and is still priced $40.

And it was a full remake. Not a port or a remaster. An important distinction. Also, I feel I may have already responded to Snoorlax by pointing that out. Oh well.



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snyps said:
I agree about the lack of interesting games. But from my experience that means it’s following the failure of the Wii.

Wii sold great but it had a real lack of interesting games. After Zelda and galaxy it was a boring console for a while at least in my opinion. Yea it got a Mario kart and smash. A Metroid. Eventually another Metroid. I remember the first two years going to the store and not wanting to buy any of the offerings. Very disappointing.

With the GameCube and Wii U, I was buying around ten games a year. Nearly every month I was soaking with anticipation. Those consoles sold poorly but I was getting what I wanted. So for me, I can’t base a Nintendo consoles “success” on whether I’m getting games I want but rather I have to judge it on if it’s attracting a broader audience.

We already have an all time great Mario and Zelda on the Switch. It took the entire GC lifespan to get Twilight at the end of the road. Mario Sunshine was nice but not 64,Galaxy, Odyssey Caliber. Aside from RE4,RS, Prime and Tales of Symphonia I fail to see where the system was that much superior to the Wii in terms of content. The Wii U is Nintendo's worst machine ever, the Mario game is the weakest since Mario 2 and it Got BotW at the end of its life time with a superior Switch version also avaliable.