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Forums - Politics Discussion - An open letter to the black community of VGC

Today is the one year anniversary of when I commented it was clear to me that not a lot of people on this site have had much actual interaction with Black people. Clearly, that is still the case. I default think of everyone on the internet as a white male as well, and I find that to usually be true. I guess it's all about mindset. I hope you all continue to come accross chill Black people in your lives, haha.



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TopCat8 said:
Today is the one year anniversary of when I commented it was clear to me that not a lot of people on this site have had much actual interaction with Black people. Clearly, that is still the case. I default think of everyone on the internet as a white male as well, and I find that to usually be true. I guess it's all about mindset. I hope you all continue to come accross chill Black people in your lives, haha.

Happy anniversary! Anything you'd like to share? I'm curious as to what it was. As specific thread, a few different posters.......Help a brother out! Brother in this instance meaning human male.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

One time I had an encounter of racism against a black dude. It was in France, I've been studying there at a university for one semester as a foreign student. I found a bunch of friends who came from all parts of europe and one from the US. Anyway, in that group of people there was one black guy who came from *drumroll* Austria. One night we were a mixed group of like five or six people, some girls, some boys. We wanted to go into a dance club called Le Chat Noir. All of us passed the bouncers easily except for him. The bouncers didn't give any explanation, they just denied him. So when we noticed that we came back out and tried to clear the situation and talk with the bouncers but it was worthless. Of course we were all pissed, but he stayed calm and accepted it pretty fast. It was obviously because of his color. Yet he still insisted that we went back in and had fun without him. We did that after a while, too.

After some years I asked myself if the bouncers are truly to blame here, because it could be explained because they are racist but it might as well be because they wanted to protect him from the racist audience in the club. Made me think for a while.

Anyway. I still hear his voice in my head. A tall, bald, black guy talking with an ultra deep austrian accent. The contrast was so funny! "Jetzt geht's ihr rein und amüsiert's eich!" Absolutely hilarious.



Racism is a form a social conditioning. It affects people of all colors not just whites/blacks. In fact here in the U.S I have noticed how it can affect the targets of the racism. I have noticed a lot of blacks pigeon holing themselves into racist stereotypes such as gang culture, ghetto speaking, trying to act and dress like a tough guy/thug. Maybe it is some form of escapism or a way to brand yourself to a certain group in a country where you think you are not "wanted". I believe as long as there is separation racism will continue, it is only when you mix and mingle with others that you realize they aren't much different than you. Unfortunately this will be very hard to accomplish in the USA with the current "black culture" and many blacks trying to differentiate themselves from regular white kids, usually as a form of self protection/inferiority complex.
Just an opinion/random thought dont crucify me.



I'm a long serving black member on this site and I'm sure this is just an other ploy by Rol to get moddship. Don't believe his lies
Chapset



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RolStoppable said:

That's quite a naive perspective. Ignoring an issue isn't going to make an issue go away.

Naive? Hardly. I am a minority, I know exactly what I am talking about, don't assume my naivety when you have zero clue about me or my background.
There wouldn't be an issue if people weren't making a big song and dance about it. (Both for and against)

RolStoppable said:

A good current example of that is the indifferent attitude of the government towards neo-nazism in a certain German county and that has allowed neo-nazism to become more prevalent. As the saying goes, evil triumphs when good men do nothing. It's easy to say that all issues would disappear if every single person on this planet would be perfect, but you should know that the world doesn't work this way.

Way to conflate multiple issues.

RolStoppable said:

Also, it's clear from the short video that Morgan Freeman is upset because of something else, namely the suggestion that he should be happy about the existence of the Black History Month.

The point that he is trying to convey is that there wouldn't need to be a Black History Month if people would stop focusing on various individualistic descriptors and started treating and seeing everyone as equals... Because at the end of the day, we all bleed the same colour of blood.

RolStoppable said:

 The point he is really making is that there shouldn't be such a thing as a Black History Month because that's reverse racism; essentially, Black History Month came into existence to give credit and acknowledgement to black people, but Morgan Freeman rejects that.

It's far from reverse racism. He wants equality.

RolStoppable said:

 He doesn't want to have Black History Month because it treats black people as a special kind. What he wants is that black history and American history are seen as one and the same, because that way the color of the skin becomes irrelevant and that's what's necessary to put an end to the fixation on skin color.

And I fully back him on that.
Just like I believe all these LGBTQI+ "pride" events to be rather superfluous.
People need to stop pointing out their skin pigmentation, gender, sexuality... A person is more than those individual descriptors, they are human beings and should be treated and seen as the same as everyone else.

RolStoppable said:

What you take away from the video is really not what he was getting at.

That is your opinion. I strongly disagree.

John2290 said:

I use this logic, try to spread it but it always falls flat. Not sure if it was Morgan Freeman who imparted it on me but man did he word that brilliantly and it comes off as wise beyond, even his years then. It's almost like it was a script written by a Tibetan monk. I often forget he is intelligent and godly of camera as he is on it. 

Morgan Freeman just has one of those "personalities" which allows him to get a message across rather eloquently.

chapset said:
I'm a long serving black member on this site and I'm sure this is just an other ploy by Rol to get moddship. Don't believe his lies
Chapset

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Wait... you're racist? Huh... as a black man I never really got that impression from you, even in my lurking days, none of your posts seemed offensive to me. Ah well, you still seem like an alright guy and it's nice that you're improving, so thanks for the apology!



RolStoppable said:
Barozi said:

They had so much fun back in the days.



Being on vacation is always great.

Holy cow! Now I understand.

Now I understand why some Americans believe that Germany denies its darkest era. Family Guy was their history class.

Yeah, and that is not really fair. 



RolStoppable said:

Hi, my name is Rol. I am a VGC-holic.

I grew up in Austria, a country that is infamous for being less than friendly to people who are different. It wasn't until the age of 12 that I learned that there are words for foreigners and people of other ethnicities that are not derogatory, because xenophobia and racism are so deeply ingrained in this country. I suppose it's part of our DNA and I am sure most of you know which events took place in the 1930s and early 1940s. For many years of my life I've gone with the flow and made fun of Neger - a term that I don't need to translate - without even knowing why we had so much disdain for black people. Austria didn't colonize the African continent like, for example, France, so seeing a black man or woman in person was an incredible rarity and therefore all the hatred couldn't possibly be based on any real life events.

I think fear of the unknown is the biggest driving force for racism. People get tremendously paranoid of bad things that could happen if those people settled nearby and eventually they begin to mistake their frightening fantasies for reality. VGC offered me the opportunity to communicate with people from all over the world, so I could talk to people of various ethnicities and races free of prejudice, because in my mind everyone defaulted to white male. It wasn't until someone revealed personal details that I saw them as something other than white and male. It was an interesting experience without a doubt. My findings were that black people are rude, selfish, ignorant, arrogant and stupid.

Indeed, there is no discernable difference between white and black people, because I found all the same things in white people. The same holds true for positive traits. The biggest thing that changed in my time here is the level of my reaction to the revelation that someone is not a white male, but actually a black male. A decade ago I was like "Whoooooaaaaa, d21lewis. You are black?!?!?! But you were always a cool dude in my mind...", so there was shock and disappointment. Over the years it became less pronounced and it was more like "Whoa, NobleTeam360 is black? But he is really cool. I mean, sure, he is a Dallas Cowboys fan, but everyone has their faults."

NobleTeam360 helped me to get over the shock by saying that he is only a quarter black.. or an eighth? I don't really remember, but what's important is that it really did help at the time, because it made me think of how I prefer milk chocolate over dark chocolate. Although lately I've taken more of a liking to darker chocolate because it has a less sugary taste, so I don't swear by Milka anymore... hold on, I didn't make this thread to talk about chocolate.

What I am trying to say is that my time on VGC has made me an at least tiny bit better person than I was a good decade ago. Nowadays white guys actually freak me out more than black people, because when I make racist posts on this site, it's not the black community who is the most offended. I get PMs from white guys like "Don't you know that black people have no sense of humor? Have you never watched Damon Wayans' show My Wife and Kids?", and I just shake my head. That show wasn't bad. And more importantly, if we can't joke and laugh about something together, then we really have an actual problem. That is all.

Thanks for reading.

My father's family came (smh) from Austria and Vienna is my second favorite place in the world, but I trust your judgement and it's about to ruin my passion for Austria