Soriku said:
What about we're being realistic? |
Good idea but it would hurt some fans too much.
gekkokamen said:
The fact that not may jrpgs have sold well this gen (part of that fact precisely because they have stayed console exclusive on the 360) that doesn't automatically qualify 800K WW sales of HIGH-BUDGET jrpgs as succesful. I'm sure you're missing some jrpgs that did better this gen. Just one example : TALES OF VESPERIA right now is over 830K, and it hasn't released outside of Japan for the PS3 so it's hardly a WW game. So please don't sound so definitive when you call it "that's it, that's it" like you're throwing out facts with your little list. I'll be willing to prove to you there quite a few more jrpgs that sold better that 800K WW for the PS2. but this doesn't deserve my time so whatever... (edit: look, Xenosaga, going by VGC data sold 450K in Japan alone...data is incomplete or who knows if accurate at all but well there you go) Lost Odyssey was an expensive game, its production assets showthis, I highly doubt they were aiming for 800K. So people saying "in your view many games are flops" yeah, whatever... |
Wow, ToV (multi-plat) beat LO by 10k. Yes, what a big mistake on my part. Let's just pretend that LO didn't beat ToV by almost 350k head-to-head on the 360. Yes, Lost Odyssey is a failure for performing so well versus an established IP that's been around for 15 years and has a strong, loyal fanbase.
Oh so the Vgchartz data isn't good enough for you when it comes to Xenosaga but it is when it comes to Valkyria Chronicles right?
Lost Odyssey was big budget but the point still stands that it is difficult for a jrpg to crack 800k in the market. Jrpgs are for the most part a niche genre in the west. Especially now that more and more westerners are getting sick of them.
Lost Odyssey especially performed well in the western market. 710k. List of PS2 jrpgs that sold 700k+ in the west: Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Dark Cloud, Dragon Quest. That's it. Are you not convinced? Or is your anti-Xbox bias going to prevent you from accepting the truth? This is a niche genre. It's not every day that you have a jrpg coming out that sells amazingly well.
I'm a big fan of Valkyria Chronicles and I'm really happy about it having great sales.
Congrats. It deserves.
jarrod said:
Yes, through the magic of "in store locator"! |
I bought my copy in December at Toys r us and they had 5 copies.....
@loves2splooge
LO didn't meet expectations by far....that's it!
Playstation rpg king
/wearscrown
loves2splooge said:
Wow, ToV (multi-plat) beat LO by 10k. Yes, what a big mistake on my part. Let's just pretend that LO didn't beat ToV by almost 350k head-to-head on the 360. Yes, Lost Odyssey is a failure for performing so well versus an established IP that's been around for 15 years and has a strong, loyal fanbase. Oh so the Vgchartz data isn't good enough for you when it comes to Xenosaga but it is when it comes to Valkyria Chronicles right? Lost Odyssey was big budget but the point still stands that it is difficult for a jrpg to crack 800k in the market. Jrpgs are for the most part a niche genre in the west. Especially now that more and more westerners are getting sick of them. Lost Odyssey especially performed well in the western market. 710k. List of PS2 jrpgs that sold 700k+ in the west: Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, Dark Cloud, Dragon Quest. That's it. Are you not convinced? Or is your anti-Xbox bias going to prevent you from accepting the truth? This is a niche genre. It's not every day that you have a jrpg coming out that sells amazingly well. |
oh dear you do realise that WKC, and SO will probably both end up selling more than Lost Odysee eventually. Seriously the only jrpgs that have done bad are the ones that SE made for the x360, even LO is considered to have a good result for a new IP.
Finally at long last PS3 is now getting loads of new rpg's this year, the PS brand is going back to havin all the rpg's again
it's the future of handheld
PS VITA = LIFE
The official Vita thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130023&page=1
jarrod said:
I was talking B&M. NPD actually gets data directly from all those companies too now iirc (they made a deal with Amazon in... August was it?). It'd be one thing if VGC was attributing the huge difference to say Wal-mart, but they're not stocking it online and the in-store locator seems spotty too (no copies within 100 miles of NYC, LA or Chicago?). So where would the extra sales be coming from? |
I live in New York City, and there is only one Walmart within a hundred mile radius of the entire city. But I guess you already knew that from using the in-store locator. And just decided not to mention it. 
Many stores that are popular in New York, like Target, don't have an in-store locator. The vast majority of game stores are Gamestops, where the game is definitely in stock in most stores throughout the city (there are like 50 gamestops in new york city, by the way). The game is also currently limited to 2 per customer on the website (something Gamestop only does when a game is popular and in limited supply.)
The argument that the game is out of stock almost everywhere is pretty much untenable. It comes down to NPD versus VGC, which I'm not going to get into, because I don't have better data then either of them. Who knows?
Also, it's a little hard for me to believe that over the past few months you have been constantly searching for the in-store availability of a game which you have referred to several times in this thread as Valkyria Profile.
p.s. they're both great games.
DAMN WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN!!!! I didn't even realized VC was so close to 1mill 0_o!!!!!!
Pretend That Tank is Lost Odyssey, LMAO!!!!!!! FEAR THE POWER OF THE VALKYRE!!!
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