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Johann said:
@superchunk:
I'm sorry but that comment just had me rolling. So you think the political issues in D9 were dumbed down, but in Avatar they were just fine? Are ya shittin me?

I always respected your opinion, even when I disagree with you, but the only point in which I could agree that Avatar is better than D9 is... the visuals. But then again 8 times the budget will do that.

So you think its realistic in any way that a race og beings who are FAR more powerful than us would allow themselves to be put into those types of living conditions? I mean we could even use there technology. A more realistic solution would have been that they come down and haggle their way to more fuel sources and food and trade us something.

As for political specificness, D9 was just stupid. I'm mean c'mon Nigerians living inside controlling everything? Yeah, like the US would allow such a thing considering the potential of those weapons and overall technology in the mothership. It was just a stupid scenario.

Whereas Avatar's reverse setup is not only *exactly* what we do no (i.e. US and other colonial powers) to every other weaker nation on Earth (just research diamonds in Africa), but its highly conceivable in relation to a weaker non-human species (akin to how we handle animal populations now).

Like I said, the only far-fetched ideas in Avatar were the actual Pandoran species and connectivity. However, that is plausible considering the biological physiologies of our own Earth based species. Once we figure out how to use computers to communicate via simple mind control, how hard do you think it would be to map simple reactions to animals brains as well? Only difference is Pandora's was via evolution.



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mike_intellivision said:
tarheel91 said:
Cypher1980 said:
General concensus to any chart that fails to take inflation into account is that it is near meaningless.

Still good curio value.

Claiming a new Box Office smash always drags a few million more of the brain dead morons of the world into the cinema.

Any post that assumes that the only thing that changes over time when it comes to movies is inflation is near meanginless.

In other words, inflation isn't the only thing that's changed over time.  Gone with the Wind was released in a market vastly different from ours.  For every issue someone takes with Avatar, there's on that can be taken with Gone with the Wind.  There was much less to do back then in terms of entertainment.  There was no internet to torrent movies from.  Far fewer movies were released, and virtually none were released that were on the same level as Gone with the Wind for a LONG time.  I could go on.  Get the point? 

Gone with the Wind was a seminal epic, that is to be true.

But it should be noted that popular entertainment of that time period included  radio, Vaudeville (live stage acts), sporting events, and the movies -- including weekly serials.  Television eventually killed the first two and changed the second two (it took a quarter century for minor league sports to fully rebound after TV became widespread in the US).

 

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I didn't say there wasn't anything to do, just far less.  Plus, doing things generally took a lot more effort.  I can entertain myself just sitting in front of a computer or TV all night.  Cars are much more widespread.  There's always something to do now if you want to have fun.

Movies dominated pop culture during that era.  Any sort of history class or book from the era will show you that.  Going down to the theater and paying a dime to see the picture show was analogous to our Saturday morning cartoons for many children of the time.



darklich13 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:
Slimebeast said:
Titanic is the biggest movie ever even if you adjust for inflation. Remember that titanic had much more worldwide revenue compared to it's domestic US revenue. Those inflation adjusted charts are only for US box office, so they dont tell the right picture.

Titanic is No 1. Gone with the wind and/or Star Wars is second. Avatar will be third or fourth. (measured in total revenue worldwide, adjusted for inflation)

You are very correct on this. Something I was suprised about.  Here are the totals that I found. World Wide Avatar sits at $1,689,630,947


Domestic Foreign Totals
Gone With The Wind $198,676,459.00 $201,500,000.00 $400,176,459.00
Adjusted  $1,485,028,000.00 $1,506,132,852.91 $2,991,160,852.91








Titanic $600,788,188.00 $1,242,091,767.00 $1,842,879,955.00
Adjusted $983,342,300.00 $2,032,998,316.83 $3,016,340,616.83



 


Domestic Foreign Totals
Gone With The Wind $198,676,459.00 $201,500,000.00 $400,176,459.00

$1,485,028,000.00 $1,506,132,852.91 $2,991,160,852.91



$3,391,337,311.91




Titanic $600,788,188.00 $1,242,091,767.00 $1,842,879,955.00

$983,342,300.00 $2,032,998,316.83 $3,016,340,616.83



$4,859,220,571.83

do one for star wars episode 4 please

 

Star Wars $460,998,007.00 $314,400,000.00 $775,398,007.00
Adjusted $1,309,179,000.00 $892,858,258.28 $2,202,037,258.28
     

Cool! Actually I wasn't totally sure about it, but my memory served me right.

Also, I like it that Titanic is No 1 rather than Gone with the wind or Star Wars. Titanic was a bit cheezy, but it was epic!




darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:
Slimebeast said:
Titanic is the biggest movie ever even if you adjust for inflation. Remember that titanic had much more worldwide revenue compared to it's domestic US revenue. Those inflation adjusted charts are only for US box office, so they dont tell the right picture.

Titanic is No 1. Gone with the wind and/or Star Wars is second. Avatar will be third or fourth. (measured in total revenue worldwide, adjusted for inflation)

You are very correct on this. Something I was suprised about.  Here are the totals that I found. World Wide Avatar sits at $1,689,630,947


Domestic Foreign Totals
Gone With The Wind $198,676,459.00 $201,500,000.00 $400,176,459.00
Adjusted  $1,485,028,000.00 $1,506,132,852.91 $2,991,160,852.91



$3,391,337,311.91




Titanic $600,788,188.00 $1,242,091,767.00 $1,842,879,955.00
Adjusted $983,342,300.00 $2,032,998,316.83 $3,016,340,616.83



$4,859,220,571.83


Domestic Foreign Totals
Gone With The Wind $198,676,459.00 $201,500,000.00 $400,176,459.00

$1,485,028,000.00 $1,506,132,852.91 $2,991,160,852.91



$3,391,337,311.91




Titanic $600,788,188.00 $1,242,091,767.00 $1,842,879,955.00

$983,342,300.00 $2,032,998,316.83 $3,016,340,616.83



$4,859,220,571.83

do one for star wars episode 4 please

 

Star Wars $460,998,007.00 $314,400,000.00 $775,398,007.00
Adjusted $1,309,179,000.00 $892,858,258.28 $2,202,037,258.28
      $2,977,435,265.28

why are you adding the adjusted & unadjusted totals? whats the point in doing that

Yea I noticed this too, so I ereased it. Don't know why I did that.



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darklich13 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:

 

Star Wars $460,998,007.00 $314,400,000.00
Adjusted $1,309,179,000.00 $892,858,258.28
     

why are you adding the adjusted & unadjusted totals? whats the point in doing that

Yea I noticed this too, so I ereased it. Don't know why I did that.

Just one more thing, inflation rates in each country are different so thats why boxofficemojo don't have an inflated worldwide gross chart.

So the inflation could actually look quite different



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darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
darklich13 said:
 

 

Star Wars $460,998,007.00 $314,400,000.00  
Adjusted $1,309,179,000.00 $892,858,258.28  
       

why are you adding the adjusted & unadjusted totals? whats the point in doing that

Yea I noticed this too, so I ereased it. Don't know why I did that.

Just one more thing, inflation rates in each country are different so thats why boxofficemojo don't have an inflated worldwide gross chart.

So the inflation could actually look quite different

Totals from foreigh countries were converted to US currency then inflation was added.



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rccsetzer said:
Why is this posted on this site? What is the relation with video games? Will Avatar push 3DTVs fast forward to our homes? So this means Sony is doing the right thing when they say PS3 is going 3D this year?

Dude, this a video game site, but the forums are open to discussing other things.



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superchunk said:
arsenicazure said:
superchunk said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
arsenicazure said:
It interesting to note that district 9 which was last on THAT list is prolly better than 70% movies there...

100% right, district 9 even deserve more succes than most of the films in the list.

You are horrible people. D9 was a horrible movie with absolutely no believability. I was hyped for that movie but so many parts were increadibly stupid it was amazing.

It was a sort of avatar without beautiful pandora/3D. The subtle political commentry on apartheid, the documentary style and the emotions were amazing. It wasnt "just another brain dead alien invasion movie",Peter jackson did a much better job than spielberg or Emmerich.

Far more believable than an alien race communicating with a tree..

I saw D9. It was no where near the caliber of Avatar in any sense. The political issues really dumbed down to the point of idiocy while Avatar is pretty much exactly how we do thing now, let alone to another race of beings. The action sequences were highly improbably, like throwing a fucking pig when you can just zap anything to disintegration.

It had a lot of potential, but the newbee director f'ed up. I don't see how peter jackson could keep his name on that trash.

While I will admint the fantasy/scifi elements of Avatar with complete worldwide communications and conciousness transfers were far more unbelievable, at least that fits into the idea of Gia, whereas D9 simply made things illogical.

If you havent been to south africa or havent read much about their history, you wouldn't have much clue as to what subtleties District 9 had, that I'm talking about.



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superchunk said:
Johann said:
@superchunk:
I'm sorry but that comment just had me rolling. So you think the political issues in D9 were dumbed down, but in Avatar they were just fine? Are ya shittin me?

I always respected your opinion, even when I disagree with you, but the only point in which I could agree that Avatar is better than D9 is... the visuals. But then again 8 times the budget will do that.

So you think its realistic in any way that a race og beings who are FAR more powerful than us would allow themselves to be put into those types of living conditions? I mean we could even use there technology. A more realistic solution would have been that they come down and haggle their way to more fuel sources and food and trade us something.

As for political specificness, D9 was just stupid. I'm mean c'mon Nigerians living inside controlling everything? Yeah, like the US would allow such a thing considering the potential of those weapons and overall technology in the mothership. It was just a stupid scenario.

Whereas Avatar's reverse setup is not only *exactly* what we do no (i.e. US and other colonial powers) to every other weaker nation on Earth (just research diamonds in Africa), but its highly conceivable in relation to a weaker non-human species (akin to how we handle animal populations now).

Like I said, the only far-fetched ideas in Avatar were the actual Pandoran species and connectivity. However, that is plausible considering the biological physiologies of our own Earth based species. Once we figure out how to use computers to communicate via simple mind control, how hard do you think it would be to map simple reactions to animals brains as well? Only difference is Pandora's was via evolution.

I thought they handled it in a good way. The south african governement could've stopped the United States from interfering because they were interested in the technology. They were even experimenting on them to find a way to use their weapons.

I will agree that the apartheid thing was a little heavy handled, but Avatar did no better.

The government/military in Avatar was just so ridiculously and obviously evil, I couldn't help but chuckle. Specially at that colonel.

Do you know Noah Antwiller (aka the Spoony One)? He made a review with his brother that pretty much sums up how I feel about the movie. The thing is really unscripted and long (they go on for about 35 minutes and that includes a lot of stuttering and "hums...", so be warned)

http://spoonyexperiment.com/2009/12/20/vlog-12-19-09-avatar/#disqus_thread

 



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how is avatar so far?
looking likely to be he highest grossing movie ever?