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theRepublic on 17 January 2010
famousringo said:
Let me tell youa story of two delis, located across the street from each other. The Wii Deli specializes in club sandwiches, and the HD Deli makes great big deluxe submarine sandwiches.

Threepee, a sandwich maker working at HD Deli, is having a hard time making ends meet. He makes a mean submarine sandwich, but there just aren't always enough people hungry for a submarine sandwich to pay the bills.

Threepee looks across the street, and sees people lined up to get into Wii Deli. Seeing dollar signs, Threepee walks across the street and asks the proprietor if he could use another sandwich maker. The propietor agrees, noting that he's having trouble meeting demand and customers like variety.

So Threepee starts selling sandwiches, only he can't afford to buy all the ingredients that he puts into his submarine sandwiches. That should be okay, because if these people wanted a submarine sandwich, they'd be across the street anyway. He doesn't want to compete with the propietor's club sandwiches, because he thinks people will just turn up their nose and buy from him. So Threepee makes cheese sandwiches: Just a couple pieces of Wonderbread with a slice of processed cheese in the middle.

At first, things go well. Customers are tired of waiting in line for club sandwiches, so they try a cheese sandwich for a little variety. Threepee thinks this is great, and starts making more and more cheese sandwiches.

But the customers aren't enthused. Where's the tomato? The turkey? It's a little unsatisfying. So they go back to waiting in line for club sandwiches.

Threepee's response to this development is anger. He's spent a lot of money on Wonderbread and processed cheese. Rather than trying to make club sandwiches, or coming up with a sandwich that's different, but just as satisfying, Threepee angrily blames the customers of the Wii Deli for not buying his sandwiches. He tells them that he thinks they're ignorant people who don't even like sandwiches and storms out of the deli.

Now tell me, do the customers of the Wii Deli have any reason to find Threepee annoying?

What a great post.

I salute you, sir.



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GuyDuke on 17 January 2010
morenoingrato said:
Since NSMBwii things started to gonne bad for nintendo

You know, without New Super Mario Bros Wii, Nintendo would have lost their momentum for a long period of time if it hadn't been released in late 2009. 

New Super Mario Bros Wii is not a bad game. In fact, it's better than a lot of good games released of the HD twins in 2009. Everyone was expecting the next "Big Thing" from Nintendo because third party is such a lame. But Nintendo can't do everything. They need time to create a great AAA game (like Zelda Wii, which Aonuma is working on since 2007) like any other developer. Nintendo have few studios that create different type of games. When they are rushed because nobody aside of them are able to produce quality titles, they mess a little with their title. With NSMBW, it wasn't that catastrophic, but...

If it wasn't because of third party lack of support, NSMBW would have probably been the next "Big Thing"

You should blame Ubisoft, Capcom, Square-Enix, Namco for ignoring you. They are missing the goldmine that is the Wii. They prefer to sell a game around 3 million units instead of developing for the Wii which has 2 times a more big userbase. Screw them.



Alterego-X on 17 January 2010

By the way, am I the only one who is totally reminded of the Wii Disruption when listening to Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are A-Changing"?



GuyDuke on 17 January 2010
theRepublic said:
famousringo said:
Let me tell youa story of two delis, located across the street from each other. The Wii Deli specializes in club sandwiches, and the HD Deli makes great big deluxe submarine sandwiches.

Threepee, a sandwich maker working at HD Deli, is having a hard time making ends meet. He makes a mean submarine sandwich, but there just aren't always enough people hungry for a submarine sandwich to pay the bills.

Threepee looks across the street, and sees people lined up to get into Wii Deli. Seeing dollar signs, Threepee walks across the street and asks the proprietor if he could use another sandwich maker. The propietor agrees, noting that he's having trouble meeting demand and customers like variety.

So Threepee starts selling sandwiches, only he can't afford to buy all the ingredients that he puts into his submarine sandwiches. That should be okay, because if these people wanted a submarine sandwich, they'd be across the street anyway. He doesn't want to compete with the propietor's club sandwiches, because he thinks people will just turn up their nose and buy from him. So Threepee makes cheese sandwiches: Just a couple pieces of Wonderbread with a slice of processed cheese in the middle.

At first, things go well. Customers are tired of waiting in line for club sandwiches, so they try a cheese sandwich for a little variety. Threepee thinks this is great, and starts making more and more cheese sandwiches.

But the customers aren't enthused. Where's the tomato? The turkey? It's a little unsatisfying. So they go back to waiting in line for club sandwiches.

Threepee's response to this development is anger. He's spent a lot of money on Wonderbread and processed cheese. Rather than trying to make club sandwiches, or coming up with a sandwich that's different, but just as satisfying, Threepee angrily blames the customers of the Wii Deli for not buying his sandwiches. He tells them that he thinks they're ignorant people who don't even like sandwiches and storms out of the deli.

Now tell me, do the customers of the Wii Deli have any reason to find Threepee annoying?

What a great post.

I salute you, sir.

Wow. What a great parable. 



Xxain on 17 January 2010
famousringo said:
Let me tell youa story of two delis, located across the street from each other. The Wii Deli specializes in club sandwiches, and the HD Deli makes great big deluxe submarine sandwiches.

Threepee, a sandwich maker working at HD Deli, is having a hard time making ends meet. He makes a mean submarine sandwich, but there just aren't always enough people hungry for a submarine sandwich to pay the bills.

Threepee looks across the street, and sees people lined up to get into Wii Deli. Seeing dollar signs, Threepee walks across the street and asks the proprietor if he could use another sandwich maker. The propietor agrees, noting that he's having trouble meeting demand and customers like variety.

So Threepee starts selling sandwiches, only he can't afford to buy all the ingredients that he puts into his submarine sandwiches. That should be okay, because if these people wanted a submarine sandwich, they'd be across the street anyway. He doesn't want to compete with the propietor's club sandwiches, because he thinks people will just turn up their nose and buy from him. So Threepee makes cheese sandwiches: Just a couple pieces of Wonderbread with a slice of processed cheese in the middle.

At first, things go well. Customers are tired of waiting in line for club sandwiches, so they try a cheese sandwich for a little variety. Threepee thinks this is great, and starts making more and more cheese sandwiches.

But the customers aren't enthused. Where's the tomato? The turkey? It's a little unsatisfying. So they go back to waiting in line for club sandwiches.

Threepee's response to this development is anger. He's spent a lot of money on Wonderbread and processed cheese. Rather than trying to make club sandwiches, or coming up with a sandwich that's different, but just as satisfying, Threepee angrily blames the customers of the Wii Deli for not buying his sandwiches. He tells them that he thinks they're ignorant people who don't even like sandwiches and storms out of the deli.

Now tell me, do the customers of the Wii Deli have any reason to find Threepee annoying?

ver clever i like it

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Moren on 17 January 2010
guiduc said:
morenoingrato said:
Since NSMBwii things started to gonne bad for nintendo

You know, without New Super Mario Bros Wii, Nintendo would have lost their momentum for a long period of time if it hadn't been released in late 2009. 

New Super Mario Bros Wii is not a bad game. In fact, it's better than a lot of good games released of the HD twins in 2009. Everyone was expecting the next "Big Thing" from Nintendo because third party is such a lame. But Nintendo can't do everything. They need time to create a great AAA game (like Zelda Wii, which Aonuma is working on since 2007) like any other developer. Nintendo have few studios that create different type of games. When they are rushed because nobody aside of them are able to produce quality titles, they mess a little with their title. With NSMBW, it wasn't that catastrophic, but...

If it wasn't because of third party lack of support, NSMBW would have probably been the next "Big Thing"

You should blame Ubisoft, Capcom, Square-Enix, Namco for ignoring you. They are missing the goldmine that is the Wii. They prefer to sell a game around 3 million units instead of developing for the Wii which has 2 times a more big userbase. Screw them.

well not bad of bad, I meant bad for press atack



Carl on 17 January 2010

I've noticed a lot of bitterness. It's actually a bit funny.



                            

GuyDuke on 17 January 2010
morenoingrato said:
guiduc said:
morenoingrato said:
Since NSMBwii things started to gonne bad for nintendo

You know, without New Super Mario Bros Wii, Nintendo would have lost their momentum for a long period of time if it hadn't been released in late 2009. 

New Super Mario Bros Wii is not a bad game. In fact, it's better than a lot of good games released of the HD twins in 2009. Everyone was expecting the next "Big Thing" from Nintendo because third party is such a lame. But Nintendo can't do everything. They need time to create a great AAA game (like Zelda Wii, which Aonuma is working on since 2007) like any other developer. Nintendo have few studios that create different type of games. When they are rushed because nobody aside of them are able to produce quality titles, they mess a little with their title. With NSMBW, it wasn't that catastrophic, but...

If it wasn't because of third party lack of support, NSMBW would have probably been the next "Big Thing"

You should blame Ubisoft, Capcom, Square-Enix, Namco for ignoring you. They are missing the goldmine that is the Wii. They prefer to sell a game around 3 million units instead of developing for the Wii which has 2 times a more big userbase. Screw them.

well not bad of bad, I meant bad for press atack

Oh yeah the bias really exploded with the release of Mario Bros Wii.



Metallicube on 17 January 2010
Alterego-X said:

I have a strange feeling. 

Maybe it is just me whose perceptions changed, but I could swear, that nowadays the whole Nintendo community, and not just on this site, is a lot more supportive to Nintendo and hostile to 3rd parties than ever before, for example, a year ago.

 

In the past, there was cheerful optimism about all upcoming core third party games, and some blaming of Nintendo for not helping to get even more third party games. 

Nowadays, everyone starts to sound like Malstrom: "The Industry Must Die!", "None of them could make any good enough games!",  "Everything on-rails sucks!"

Even on generic core news sites, like Eurogamer, a comment pointing out how retarded Ubisoft is, and their best franchises should have Wii versions, can get voted up. 

Is it just me, or there is something in the winds?

Simple case of every action has an equal and opposite reaction.. Industry has turned hostile towards Nintendo and its fans, so its fans have responded by turning hostile to the industry.



Millennium on 17 January 2010
Alterego-X said:

I have a strange feeling. 

Maybe it is just me whose perceptions changed, but I could swear, that nowadays the whole Nintendo community, and not just on this site, is a lot more supportive to Nintendo and hostile to 3rd parties than ever before, for example, a year ago.

After three years of insults, baw, and thinly-disguised boycotts by developers afraid to experiment and focus on quality over graphics, you would probably be hostile too.



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