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Which would sell more - FFXIII Wii or FFXIII HD

HD 215 79.63%
 
Wii 55 20.37%
 
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Pristine20 on 16 January 2010
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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jarrod on 16 January 2010
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

Critical reception's been insanely positive and it's legs have been proportionately better than FFX/XII slightly even.  The game didn't sell less because of what it is, it pretty plainly sold less because it's on PS3 (like MGS, Musou, Yakuza, Winning Eleven, etc, etc).  And even then, it hasn't sold much less even.

And Final Fantasy is nearly as "mainstream" as JRPGs get.  Any game that sells over a million units in Japan has to manage a notable degree of mainstream appeal.



Pristine20 on 16 January 2010
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

Critical reception's been insanely positive and it's legs have been proportionately better than FFX/XII slightly even.  The game didn't sell less because of what it is, it pretty plainly sold less because it's on PS3 (like MGS, Musou, Yakuza, Winning Eleven, etc, etc).  And even then, it hasn't sold much less even.

And Final Fantasy is nearly as "mainstream" as JRPGs get.  Any game that sells over a million units in Japan has to manage a notable degree of mainstream appeal.

Lol, the critical reception of kz2 didn't stop people from skipping the game because they didn't like the controls or other reasons. In the same vein, critical reception hardly means a thing when people conjure up reasons why they dont want to buy "x" game. You noted other games that have performed worse than previous iterations due to being on ps3 but I'll have to ask you then whether you think these games also would have performed better on wii with its higher userbase because last I checked, soccer games have completely tanked on wii despite said userbase. The way I see it, the JP market has simply shrunk, hence the lower sales.

Perhaps I'm thinking with a western mindset and see the JRPG genre in general as niche. It should also be noted that other notable JRPG games haven't necessarily done much better on wii due to said userbase. Think Tales.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

darthdevidem01 on 16 January 2010
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

yeah thats why japanese gamers voted for ti as their 2nd best game of 2009 {rolls eyes}

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98086&page=1&str=1547897771#

Both DQ9 & FF13 are supposedly "hated", yet both have sold extremely well & both got rave critic reviews in japan

Its clear the majority liked both games.



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Xoj on 16 January 2010
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

actually just 1 million for third parties.

sony GT5 will likely break 2 millions easily even with half the userbase



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jarrod on 16 January 2010
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

Critical reception's been insanely positive and it's legs have been proportionately better than FFX/XII slightly even.  The game didn't sell less because of what it is, it pretty plainly sold less because it's on PS3 (like MGS, Musou, Yakuza, Winning Eleven, etc, etc).  And even then, it hasn't sold much less even.

And Final Fantasy is nearly as "mainstream" as JRPGs get.  Any game that sells over a million units in Japan has to manage a notable degree of mainstream appeal.

Lol, the critical reception of kz2 didn't stop people from skipping the game because they didn't like the controls or other reasons. In the same vein, critical reception hardly means a thing when people conjure up reasons why they dont want to buy "x" game. You noted other games that have performed worse than previous iterations due to being on ps3 but I'll have to ask you then whether you think these games also would have performed better on wii with its higher userbase because last I checked, soccer games have completely tanked on wii despite said userbase. The way I see it, the JP market has simply shrunk, hence the lower sales.

Perhaps I'm thinking with a western mindset and see the JRPG genre in general as niche. It should also be noted that other notable JRPG games haven't necessarily done much better on wii due to said userbase. Think Tales.

Killzone isn't one of the top gaming brands in Japan.  Your comparison here is worse than useless, the brands, markets and media for each are totally incompatible.

The Japanese market today is bigger than it was the entire PS2 cycle.  The PlayStation market has shrunk though, hence FF shrunk a bit alongside it since it stuck to it.  Dragon Quest on the other hand...



jarrod on 16 January 2010
Xoj said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

actually just 1 million for third parties.

sony GT5 will likely break 2 millions easily even with half the userbase

Well, in 2 more years that 3rd party record will be 3.5m+. ;)

GT5 won't even break 1 million unless they bundle the shit of it.  Hell, GT3 only sold 1.43m in Japan.

 



Pristine20 on 16 January 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

yeah thats why japanese gamers voted for ti as their 2nd best game of 2009 {rolls eyes}

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=98086&page=1&str=1547897771#

Both DQ9 & FF13 are supposedly "hated", yet both have sold extremely well & both got rave critic reviews in japan

Its clear the majority liked both games.

The fact that maybe 20% of the FF userbase may dislike the game, wont stop it from being #2. FF is a huge series  so 20% lost would hardly stop it from winning such an award in Japan. With regards to critics, it should also be noted that the most hated current FF game (FFXII)  was the only one to score 40/40 from famitsu so please stop using that as a beacon to present any argument.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Xoj on 16 January 2010
Soriku said:
Blood_Tears said:
It would sell more on the Wii in Japan but not in the west. If it was on the Wii, the characters would look very kiddy, something like a Wii Madden version.

The game wouldn't sell at all in the west, much like the other 3rd party games on the Wii in the west (FF Crystal Chronicles for example) So to answer the question, HD all the way.



Just like FF X and FF XII and...FFCC: TCB right? Oh wait...

Anyway I'll say HD.

Xoj said:
HD no doubt.

its like 358/2 VS birth by sleep

even with half the userbase psp double DS sales.

 
Because comparing a side story to an arguably main game is totally fair. Well the game won't sell as well as 358 outside of Japan anyway so this point is pretty moot.

Edit:

kingofwale said:
psrock said:
It's final Fantasy folks, it would sell on any console, now that 9 million in Japan would have made a huge difference to me.

would it?? because apparently all but few of those 9 million ignored a Wii game bearing the title "Final Fantasy" just last year.

 
That's because they ignored the game and FF XIII would release in a month's time. Plus the game isn't supposed to be that good either. Comparing TCB to a main FF is laughable to the point of stupidity.

both are side stories, the only difference PSP hardware more in line PS2 games , yet selling like a spinoff, even with so called disney userbase in the DS. its isny a 50k difference, it double DS first week.

and the game if it doesnt sell well outside japan it's mainly because its piracy and lower userbase.

@jarrod, people said the same about FF13, ;)



dahuman on 16 January 2010

Main FF is all about woo ahh for me, SE needs to make a real fucking FF RPG for Wii though.