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Super Mario Bros. 2 had a different story than Doki Doki panic but it was still the same game basically but with different enemies, characters etc.

This applies to Bioshock and SS2 which are basically the same.



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Final-Fan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
dtewi said:
SM64 has the same traits as SMG true, but it is designed so radically different it cannot be considered a remake.

I never said remake, and if i did its completely off its like SM 64 2, or Super mario 64's decendent.

You understand in almost every review they have stated its the true successor to super mario 64.

Was Ocarina of Time a "remake" of Link to the Past?  Your argument makes no sense. 

And please don't lie:

Lost tears of Kain said:
naznatips said:
What is Mario galaxy? Its a remake of super mario 64 with better graphics/ artwork and the gameplay is superior.

 


If you read my post above, when i stated remake i was being a smart elect and saying complete bullshit so naz would see that both comments were absolute crap.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

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Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

I like SMG that and metroid are the only 2 games that really interest me..



 

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If you read my post above, when i stated remake i was being a smart elect and saying complete bullshit so naz would see that both comments were absolute crap.

OK, fine, we'll forget the "remake" comment. But I think that you have yet to back up any of your main arguments about Galaxy not being a game with major changes and innovations as compared to its predecessors. See my points above.



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Lost tears of Kain said:
I first off never dissed maro galaxy, only defended bioshock and the wii fans go wild, this is unbelievable.


""""""Might want to rethink that one. Plus, you forgot that Galaxy makes this little thing called gravity really important and that instantly disqualifies it as a remake. """"

You understand that all the games have perks added to them that change the gameplay, it still is a sequal, you collect stars, hit people people and jump on them to kill them, still the same enemie, but cause its got gravity its not a remake. No matter what i say its still a fantastic game and feels great but its still in a huge way its mario 64 with few added perks


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"""First of all Lost Tears of Kain, if you haven't played both games, you don't want to get into this discussion with me. Bioshock only has better gameplay than System Shock 2 if you were too stupid to figure out how to use the awesome RPG elements of System Shock 2.

"""My problem with Bioshock is that reviews recognized it as original. No reviews are claiming Super Mario Galaxy is original, because it's not. It's just a re-imagining of Mario. Bioshock on the other hand got credit for numerous innovations which were literally just copy-pasted from its predecessor. If the reviews had said "System Shock 2 was great and so is this because it's like SS2" then I wouldn't be complaining about it.

Also, I never said my opinion was fact. I specifically said some review scores bothered ME. I didn't say no one had a right to like these games or disagree with my opinions on them."""


You really dont have to be an asswhole about it, i defended bioshock without swearing at you, only stating your opinion is NOT fact. You confirm this by your assanine first comment. Even if i HAD played it, which i havent, that doesnt mean just cause you see System shock 2 as better, doesnt mean IT IS. Ive heard people say they like the combat in bioshock more, its opinon, not just your own.

You say its just like its predessor and is getting claimed for innovation. I hear the same thing for galaxy. Its supposedly been so long since a platformer that it feels so danm new, therefor it is new and will get rated higher. Even if they had mentioned it as SS 2 successor, doesnt mean it would of changed its score.

Again, you leave no compensation for other peoples opinions, calling them stupid if they dont agree with you. Thats making your opinion FACT. That and you said COD was 5-6 hours my ass. Ive exceeded that, so yes they were right, just because you did it doesnt mean its not true.


The "might want to rethink that" part was referring to you saying they were the exact same when the gameplay was superior in one and worse in the other. Obviously, they can't be equals. Calling gravity an "added perk" is like calling ice an added perk to hockey. I mean, it's really just field hockey with that "added perk." My point is, calling the gravity part of SMG and "added perk" belittles its value and makes it seem like much more of a gimick and much less of the gameplay changing concept that most reviews are describing it as.

(My fingers are cramping from making all those quotation mark gestures.)



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dtewi said:
Super Mario Bros. 2 had a different story than Doki Doki panic but it was still the same game basically but with different enemies, characters etc.

This applies to Bioshock and SS2 which are basically the same.

 

You can state this its your opinion

If you state that though, im saying that SMG and Super mario 64 are the same, ive looked up SS 2 and bioshock, story is completely different, just like how the gameplay in SM 64 and SMG gameplay is different.

But i guess it is your opinion, im sick of argueing with everyone.

I think the true colors of this site have been shown, with all the mods, the top ranking games, and how any decent game on 360 or ps3 never get high ratings only nintendo games. Breaks my heart

 

Dont get me wrong, In my eyes SMG is one of the greatest games ever made, but you all seem to think its completely new, and ive stated my opinion and youve all shot me down for it.

Its either your pro nintendo on this site, or your shot down, great choices



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Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

Perks can be a big word the big perk in galaxy is the gravity system, and other things

I have Super mario 64, again you cant say im wrong, its OPINION, my entire point from the start

No. Just no.

Halo 2 is Halo with perks; Halo 3 is Halo 2 with really big, really shiny perks.
SSBM is SSB with perks; SSBB will be SSBM with big, shiny, online perks.

Perfect Dark is Goldeneye with perks, and by the way that's a perfect analogy for Bioshock right there.

SMB --> SMB3 is not "perks".
LttP --> OoT is not "perks".
S Metroid --> M Prime is not "perks".
SMWorld --> SM64 is not "perks".

And SM64 --> SMG is not "perks".



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Final-Fan said:
If you read my post above, when i stated remake i was being a smart elect and saying complete bullshit so naz would see that both comments were absolute crap.

OK, fine, we'll forget the "remake" comment. But I think that you have yet to back up any of your main arguments about Galaxy not being a game with major changes and innovations as compared to its predecessors. See my points above.

I believe it is, personally, i believe it has a huge difference. Though alot of things are the same and thats what im stating. WHen i was stating this, i was showing that bioshock SMG both have things that are the same from both their predessessor.

Anyhow ive read some of my before posts, i believe is shouldnt of wrote any arguements, im WAY to tired to do this. Heck i think i even wrote that SMG is the predessessor to SM 64 =/



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Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
Lost tears of Kain said:
dtewi said:
Super Mario Bros. 2 had a different story than Doki Doki panic but it was still the same game basically but with different enemies, characters etc.

This applies to Bioshock and SS2 which are basically the same.

You can state this its your opinion

If you state that though, im saying that SMG and Super mario 64 are the same, ive looked up SS 2 and bioshock, story is completely different, just like how the gameplay in SM 64 and SMG gameplay is different.

But i guess it is your opinion, im sick of argueing with everyone.

I think the true colors of this site have been shown, with all the mods, the top ranking games, and how any decent game on 360 or ps3 never get high ratings only nintendo games. Breaks my heart

Dont get me wrong, In my eyes SMG is one of the greatest games ever made, but you all seem to think its completely new, and ive stated my opinion and youve all shot me down for it.

Its either your pro nintendo on this site, or your shot down, great choices


Look, you seem to be using "JUST OPINION LOL" like it's some shield that can protect you from all counterarguments.  Yes, you can have an opinion no matter what.  We don't dispute that.  But we are saying that your opinion is contrary to the facts while ours are not. 

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Lost tears of Kain said:
dtewi said:
Super Mario Bros. 2 had a different story than Doki Doki panic but it was still the same game basically but with different enemies, characters etc.

This applies to Bioshock and SS2 which are basically the same.

 

You can state this its your opinion

Actually it is a fact. They are the SAME EXACT GAME (Doki Doki panic and SMB2)

If you state that though, im saying that SMG and Super mario 64 are the same, ive looked up SS 2 and bioshock, story is completely different, just like how the gameplay in SM 64 and SMG gameplay is different.

A different story doesn't make it a different game.

But i guess it is your opinion, im sick of argueing with everyone.

If you can't handle the arguing nature of this site than leave. We argue when people spew BS or make wrong statements. So either leave or suck it up.

I think the true colors of this site have been shown, with all the mods, the top ranking games, and how any decent game on 360 or ps3 never get high ratings only nintendo games. Breaks my heart 

Maybe they should make better games then. Nintendo has the best games ever made. And don't say "OPINION ZOMG!!!11"

 

Dont get me wrong, In my eyes SMG is one of the greatest games ever made, but you all seem to think its completely new, and ive stated my opinion and youve all shot me down for it.

It is new for bringing an entirely different approach to platformers.

Its either your pro nintendo on this site, or your shot down, great choices


 



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you