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Forums - Sales Discussion - Aaron Greenberg comment on overall sales for 2009

Kantor on 16 January 2010
Bamboleo said:
PakChiuCheng said:
Why are all xbox fanboys like Aaron Greenberg and Gabe Newell fat and balding?

Is it a coincidence or is it the effect of playing too much FPS?




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Because they scratch too much they're heads when they occasionally see "your live subscription has ended" and think "shit, I forgot to buy a new code"

As for fat I don't have an explanation, sorry x)

There's no 360 Slim, so all Microsoft employees have to be fat (Look at Steve Ballmer! And why do you think Bill Gates resigned?).

Gabe Newell is fat because he eats people.



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JaggedSac on 16 January 2010
greenmedic88 said:
With a turning point in Q3 due to the re-release of the repackaged, lower cost PS3, looking at the yearly totals is essentially taking selective data with no account for major changes in sales trends.

From what the numbers show, MS LOST their lead over the PS3 for year 2009 in the territories outside of the U.S. and that was with their initial one year head start. Japan is same as it's ever been, only worse; no surprises there.

At this point, about the only way MS can continue to present current sales trends in a positive light is to concentrate solely upon NPD data which only pertains to the U.S. despite representing well under half of the overall sales. While true, it only represents a smaller part of the overall picture.

MS gets props for holding on to the NA console market over SCE, but it's still losing overall market share globally.

Seems to me that discussing the previous year's sales at the beginning of a new year is not being selective.

So when discussing NPD he should mention the world?



Andysw on 16 January 2010

Great. Now show him the worldwide sales. Playstation 3 outsold the xbox 360.



darthdevidem01 on 16 January 2010
Seece said:
No Greenburg! This is how you do it

"The 360 was beaten by PS3 and Wii this month, it's unlikely we'll ever sell more than the Wii in NPD and it's going to be neck and neck with the PS3 for the months ahead"

THAT'S a response to make your shareholders happy

QFT

I can't believe people still don't understand this, ofcourse he can't say anything negative!



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Andysw on 16 January 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Seece said:
No Greenburg! This is how you do it

"The 360 was beaten by PS3 and Wii this month, it's unlikely we'll ever sell more than the Wii in NPD and it's going to be neck and neck with the PS3 for the months ahead"

THAT'S a response to make your shareholders happy

QFT

I can't believe people still don't understand this, of course he can't say anything negative!

But that would make him deluded.



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fastyxx on 16 January 2010
greenmedic88 said:
With a turning point in Q3 due to the re-release of the repackaged, lower cost PS3, looking at the yearly totals is essentially taking selective data with no account for major changes in sales trends.

From what the numbers show, MS LOST their lead over the PS3 for year 2009 in the territories outside of the U.S. and that was with their initial one year head start. Japan is same as it's ever been, only worse; no surprises there.

A.  It's not "selective data".  It's response to numbers that an outside group (NPD in this case) put out, which is the same arbitrary ending date most of the world uses to measure progress and organize data (January 1).  It would be selective data if he just decided to post numbers from the year that started just before the PS3 caught fire with the slim.  That would be cherry-picking data.  This is not.  At all.  He's not even selecting the data.  It's been given to him.

B.  What you are failing to understand is that, while competitive people who wan to "win", the job of MS and Sony and Nintendo is to grow their business.  MS and Xbox are doing that.  The only numbers that matter are the comparison to last generation and health of the bottom line this generation.  It matters so little about how they lost the lead in Europe (for the 2nd time, by the way.  They regained it at one point).  The point is that previously they weren't even a blip on the screen there, and now they are making money.



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gamelover2000 on 16 January 2010

yes, Xbox 360 outsold PS3 in US.. WW however.. the effect was wiped away 2nd week after the PS3 price cut



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Mummelmann on 16 January 2010
fastyxx said:
If I were Greenberg, I'd be celebrating too. Think about this gen for them:

1. Profitable over the long term for the first time with Xbox brand.

2. Gained huge chunks of market share and brand awareness.

3. Dominant in English-speaking world where the most cash still rolls in from.

4. In what was their weakest year software-wise from an exclusive standpoint and in a completely awful economy, matched with cheaper and more popular competition (Wii) and redesigned, price-cut, superior technological competition (PS3), they still had an outstanding sales year.

5. In a fall/holiday where their primary competition had a redesign, price cut, Blu-Ray, free Wi-fi, and the Exclusive Game of the Year, they were within a couple percent in sales during holiday time.

6. heading into a year full of nice exclusives, including a new core Halo game and a Fable game and a relaunched console with Natal.

Why wouldn't he be pleased? Microsoft has to be absolutely thrilled with the way this gen is going, especially when you take into account the hardware issues. Even if Sony surpasses them in total sales, Microsoft as a corporation has had a successful generation in every possible way you can measure it.

It's a great time to be a Sony fan -> I know I can not wait for FFXIII and Heavy Rain and GT5 and all the great content headed that way. The PS3 has great momentum and Blu_ray is slowly catching fire and there's lots to be excited about. But it's still not even close to being a great time to be SONY. Even if they start making small profits year-to-year or quarter to quarter, they are in every way possible (Profits/losses, market share, brand cachet, corporate stability, etc. etc. etc.) the biggest losers of this console cycle. The only way they "win" this gen is if Blu_Ray goes dominant and in a HUGE way. Remember they are billions upon billions in the hole this gen on developing PS3 and Blu-Ray (and if you are going to count Blu-Ray income as a plus, you have to count Blu_Ray research/development/marketing/initial losses as a negative as well.)

I'd much rather be in MS' execs' shoes than Sony's right now - even if that would make me fat and bald. (Nice analysis of video game industry there, versus pointless insults by the way. Kudos.)

This is all true, they've had a very good generation in NA and a decent one in EU/Others as well. No matter what happens from here on out, they can't look back and regret much in my opinion (perhaps only the hardware issues).