Wait a minute... M games are for young people in the age of 13-18???  hahahaha 13-18 year old people today are the most childish and spoiled kids the world have ever seen.... mature? yeah right.

Well of course I can't speak for every single 13-18 year old male as they all have different tastes; but the majority of people in this range love shooting games and games that are considered "hardcore" like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto.

In the end Nintendo made the right move going after the casual audience and got huge sales and profit; I'm just saying it would be nice if they had more hardcore games.

Okay how many people that play Halo 3 or Modern Warfare do you think are actually 17+ years old which is how old you're supposed to be to play M rated games? I'd say well over half are under 17 from experience.

As I said before, many of those same people will often times be interested in one or more of Nintendos series.  Such as Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Star Fox or even Mario.  Is everyone going to be?  No.  But the reason Nintendo has gotten to the place it is today is because it tries to make games that appeal to everyone.  In fact, if you really look at it, some of the series like Metroid and Fire Emblem actually target more specific markets, and sell less because of that.  But most of their other series try to hit on all available markets.  Something such as Star Fox or Pikmin isn't just made for one age group or demographic in mind.

As a result, people who tend to like something such as GTA or MGS or Assassins Creed mgith also be anticipating Metroid: Other M, Mario Galaxy 2 and Zelda Wii.  That's the key to the Wiis success.

Those are all great games you named, and I would love to play some of them (I don't have a wii). I'm not asking Nintendo to come up with new hardcore series of their own; all I'm saying is they need to get these 3rd party games like GTA, Cod and AC. If Nintendo had all the great 3rd party games, and the first party games like Mario then there is no reason for anyone not to own a wii.

Isn't Disaster day of crisis an M rated game??? i know it is not made by nintendo but by monolith but i mean it is a nintendo owned studio i mean they don't have to create every game. i don't see companies asking microsoft for help when other studios like epic or bungie make the M rated games published by them.

^ Mechanics and gameplay-wise I thought it was a pretty poor game, especially for a Nintendo published title. I think even Nintendo said something similar (I think it was Reggie).

Edit: And I think MS and Sony do help 3rd parties with there games. Sony with their own devs working as consultants to help with the tech side and MS with its monies.

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And why is it Nintendos job to get the third party games?  They made the system, they developed the customer base and they secured the marketshare.  Third parties should be working on the Wii because its doing the best and has the most customers, not Nintendo having to ask them to.

Frankly, its pretty pathetic that all these companies have only been making all their mini games, casual games and 'secondary' games for the Wii and then cry fowl when the games Nintendo makes sell 100x better.  And yes, this even includes stuff like the recent Resident Evil titles and No More Heroes.  Games which would have been deemed lackluster if they were released on the HD consoles. 

The third parties are the ones not putting forth the effort (no marketing and lackluster games) and so customers are buying the stuff Nintendo is making.  Its not Nintendos job to oversee the entire gaming industry and make sure the third parties all pay nice on every system.  And if they started doing that, then you'd throw your fist in the air and start screaming 'damn Nintendo for taking over everything!'  But that's what you're basically asking them to do.  The only alternative is for Nintendo to buy support, and frankly Nintendo is a business.  And right now, business for them is good even without any third party support.  So good...they're on top of the industry all by themselves.

It might not be there job but as platform holders they do have some responsibility when it comes to content on there system. If were desperate for 3rd party core material than they would do what Sony or MS do and negotiate and consult with 3rd parties to bring core games to there system.

And I don't think 3rd parties are putting in no effort (at least not all publishers), just that 3rd parties are putting effort into non-core genres. They're putting effort into the new genres Nintendo has helped create and for new demographics. Whilst they might seem like lacklustre games to you, they're obviously making a good profit otherwise these 3rd-parties wouldn't bother putting anything on Wii. I believe the quantity ratio of games on Wii compared to PS3 & 360 is seriously in the Wii's favour.

I personally believe 3rd parties are feeding the line "non-Nintendo core games don't sell on Wii" not because that's actually true, but because they're making far more profit off of non-core games (even with lacklustre sales).