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Jordahn said:
dnnc said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
Nothing will ever kill Mario in sales.

Quality, well... That's another thing.

What are you implying..

That nothing will beat Mario in sales, but Mario has been and can be beaten in quality...

you should give an example!!!


Back last gen, Mario Sunshine's and Luigi's Mansion's gameplay wasn't up to par with SONY's Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, and Jak & Daxter series.  Currently, it's easy to argue that Little Big Planet and the current gen Ratchet & Clank games are on par with Super Mario Bro's Wii and Mario Galaxy if not better.  You also have Braid via Xbox Live Marketplace and the PSN.  I love platforming, and Mario will always be a staple.  You're pretty much guaranteed quality when it comes to a Mario platformer.  But that doesn't mean that a Mario platformer will be the best option in gameplay.

Luigi's mansion wasn't even a platformer. I don't know what version you played.



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SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
Nothing will ever kill Mario in sales.

Quality, well... That's another thing.

What are you implying..

That nothing will beat Mario in sales, but Mario has been and can be beaten in quality...

Sure.. Examples.

They'd definitely help your argument.

2D Mario... Little Big Planet.

3D Mario... Nothing yet.

So you; Carl2291, being of sound mind and body, are willing to argue that LittleBigPlanet is better than every Super Mario Platformer ever made?

Of course not. I was talking about this gen, not past gen's.

Are you saying that New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are inferior to LittleBigPlanet?

Yes. For a few reasons, which in a way... Are linked.

1. Better multiplayer.
2. Level creation.
3. Play/Create/Share.
4. Level variety.

Gameplay, i would say NSMB has the slight edge. But overall quality of the game itself... I would give that to LBP rather easily.



                            

Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
Nothing will ever kill Mario in sales.

Quality, well... That's another thing.

What are you implying..

That nothing will beat Mario in sales, but Mario has been and can be beaten in quality...

Sure.. Examples.

They'd definitely help your argument.

2D Mario... Little Big Planet.

3D Mario... Nothing yet.

So you; Carl2291, being of sound mind and body, are willing to argue that LittleBigPlanet is better than every Super Mario Platformer ever made?

Of course not. I was talking about this gen, not past gen's.

Are you saying that New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are inferior to LittleBigPlanet?

Yes. For a few reasons, which in a way... Are linked.

1. Better multiplayer.
2. Level creation.
3. Play/Create/Share.
4. Level variety.

Gameplay, i would say NSMB has the slight edge. But overall quality of the game itself... I would give that to LBP rather easily.

Did you just list creation twice?



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dtewi said:
famousringo said:
There's only one way to kill Mario. You've gotta drive a wedge between the bros. Decades of jealousy from living in the shadows will drive a man insane. One brother always gets the acclaim. One brother always gets the princess.

Luigi has been teetering on the brink for some time now. He just needs one little push... and Mario won't be a problem anymore.

Didn't Luigi save the entire WORLD when he was a baby?

He is not stewing in his own jealousy, I would say he is living in humility.

Does anybody give him credit for it? No. All they want to hear about is Mario's latest adventure.

You don't see the inner turmoil. The loneliness. The way he looks at Peach when nobody's paying attention to him.

Luigi has to decide if he's going to take destiny into his own hands. If he's going to be a man... or just a brother.



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Carl2291 said:

2D Mario... Little Big Planet Sonic & Knuckles. Sega does what Nintendon't!

3D Mario... Nothing yet. And looking at current 3D Sonic titles, there never will be.

There Carl, I helped you out with the greatest 2D Platformer ever.



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They don't need anything to kill Mario, just compete with it, I'm not a Nintendo fan anymore, but even I like Mario. So no need to kill him, just make good games to compete with it. Little Big Planet is a good one, Ratchett and Clank is another, Jack and Daxter is another. Sonic is about Done.



dtewi said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
Nothing will ever kill Mario in sales.

Quality, well... That's another thing.

What are you implying..

That nothing will beat Mario in sales, but Mario has been and can be beaten in quality...

Sure.. Examples.

They'd definitely help your argument.

2D Mario... Little Big Planet.

3D Mario... Nothing yet.

So you; Carl2291, being of sound mind and body, are willing to argue that LittleBigPlanet is better than every Super Mario Platformer ever made?

Of course not. I was talking about this gen, not past gen's.

Are you saying that New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are inferior to LittleBigPlanet?

Yes. For a few reasons, which in a way... Are linked.

1. Better multiplayer.
2. Level creation.
3. Play/Create/Share.
4. Level variety.

Gameplay, i would say NSMB has the slight edge. But overall quality of the game itself... I would give that to LBP rather easily.

Did you just list creation twice?

For a reason. You can create your own level and play it without online. You need online for the play/create/share thing.

That's why i said they were linked. The level creation is a big part of LBP, for that reason alone... I would rank it above NSMBW.

@Smeags, agreed



                            

Mario has been around too long and been consistantly quality the entire time (with a couple exceptions). Once multiple generations love a character it's nearly impossible to 'kill'.

Another character would have to begin notably and withstand the test of time and might eventually overtake Mario (like Spider-man eventually overtook Superman) but that'd be 20 years in coming at this point.



 

Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
SmokedHostage said:
Carl2291 said:
Nothing will ever kill Mario in sales.

Quality, well... That's another thing.

What are you implying..

That nothing will beat Mario in sales, but Mario has been and can be beaten in quality...

Sure.. Examples.

They'd definitely help your argument.

2D Mario... Little Big Planet.

3D Mario... Nothing yet.

So you; Carl2291, being of sound mind and body, are willing to argue that LittleBigPlanet is better than every Super Mario Platformer ever made?

Of course not. I was talking about this gen, not past gen's.

Are you saying that New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are inferior to LittleBigPlanet?

Yes. For a few reasons, which in a way... Are linked.

1. Better multiplayer.
2. Level creation.
3. Play/Create/Share.
4. Level variety.

Gameplay, i would say NSMB has the slight edge. But overall quality of the game itself... I would give that to LBP rather easily.

Ok, I guess NSMB is the better platformer as a level creator, multiplayer, and play/create/share are not prerequisites for being a platformer.

Level Variety may help its case but NSMBWii and NSMB has plenty of that too.

In short, be more descriptive.



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