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Will God of War III push the PS3 past Uncharted 2's Graphical Success?!

Dang Skippy! Yes. 158 63.20%
 
In your dreams CGI! No. 91 36.40%
 
Total:249

At this point in time there no way we can actually compare GOW3 with UC2, because what we see for GOW3 are still in BEAT stage.
the real justification in comparing the both is when GOW3 finally releases into the market.



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DaBuddahN said:
selnor said:
DaBuddahN said:
selnor said:
DaBuddahN said:
CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:
From what Ive seen, GOW3 dioesnt surpass alot of games already out. GOW3 wont even be in my top 10 when it's treleased based on the gameplay footage. I have never viewed GOW3 as a graphical contender, but a good series. Thats my 2 cents anyway.

You haven't played the demo I presume? There aren't many games that can compete with it graphically at this point, and the final build hasn't even been unveiled yet.

Selnor, you have the most laughable comment in this thread... oh, wait, I forgot, you still think MW2 is a graphics king. =/

I have a strong stance on graphics. And think that it is far more important for how it looks onscreen than how many people go on about a game being technically better. Alot of art is technically better than other art. But that doesn't mean it looks better. See my point? No I havent played the demo, but GOW 3 has never shown as a graphics powerhouse to me. I have watched alot of footage. For example Bad Company 2 has me more excited graphics wise. It looks and feels so gritty at what it represents.

No "art" is technically better because art is not objective in nature! Hence why it is art... go to a museum or something, and have one of the guides explain this to you. Graphics is about textures, polygon count mixed with some good physics. I played the demo, twice, and I must say this game is at least in my top 5 for graphics (not sure about the order yet). Videos take away a lot of detail to games, especially Youtube ones. I suggest you download the demo yourself. I actually have a code, when I get to my apartment sometime next week, I can give it to you so you can have a first hand experience, maybe then your opinion will have a it more of weight to it.

Graphics is art. It's a form of art. It's expessing. If you said to a game developer it isn't art they would walk away from you and never talk to you again. LOL.

About the code. Yeah I'll get it from you soon.

What? Can you READ properly? I said "art" is not objective! You can create art through CGI, but CGI is not art. My point still stands; art is not objective, therefor art is not technical in nature! You said and I quote "Alot of art is technically better than other art", which is complete bs. =/


Yes graphics ARE art. and yes art IS technical in nature. It depends how that art is achieved. So what we have is 2 different methods of the way people view art.

1. Art ( graphics ) on a scale of best to worst are determined by how it is achieved ( eg. 640p, 720p, specular lighting etc. )

2. Art ( graphics ) on a scale of best to worst are determined by exactly what you see and how it pleases the individuals eyes. Regardless of resolution, methods of lighting etc.

Many people around the review world base their graphics scores nearly whole sole on option number 1. as do many sites that say x exclusive is better than y exclusive.

But I prefer method 2. I couldnt care less how something was achieved. Hence why Banjo Kazooie is high on my list. As is Tales Of Vesperia.



Offcourse it won't. God of War 3 is 1080P, Uncharted 2 is 720P. So it can't have more detail than Uncharted because the resolution is twice as heavy.



DaBuddahN said:
selnor said:
DaBuddahN said:
selnor said:
DaBuddahN said:
CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:
From what Ive seen, GOW3 dioesnt surpass alot of games already out. GOW3 wont even be in my top 10 when it's treleased based on the gameplay footage. I have never viewed GOW3 as a graphical contender, but a good series. Thats my 2 cents anyway.

You haven't played the demo I presume? There aren't many games that can compete with it graphically at this point, and the final build hasn't even been unveiled yet.

Selnor, you have the most laughable comment in this thread... oh, wait, I forgot, you still think MW2 is a graphics king. =/

I have a strong stance on graphics. And think that it is far more important for how it looks onscreen than how many people go on about a game being technically better. Alot of art is technically better than other art. But that doesn't mean it looks better. See my point? No I havent played the demo, but GOW 3 has never shown as a graphics powerhouse to me. I have watched alot of footage. For example Bad Company 2 has me more excited graphics wise. It looks and feels so gritty at what it represents.

No "art" is technically better because art is not objective in nature! Hence why it is art... go to a museum or something, and have one of the guides explain this to you. Graphics is about textures, polygon count mixed with some good physics. I played the demo, twice, and I must say this game is at least in my top 5 for graphics (not sure about the order yet). Videos take away a lot of detail to games, especially Youtube ones. I suggest you download the demo yourself. I actually have a code, when I get to my apartment sometime next week, I can give it to you so you can have a first hand experience, maybe then your opinion will have a it more of weight to it.

Graphics is art. It's a form of art. It's expessing. If you said to a game developer it isn't art they would walk away from you and never talk to you again. LOL.

About the code. Yeah I'll get it from you soon.

What? Can you READ properly? I said "art" is not objective! You can create art through CGI, but CGI is not art. My point still stands; art is not objective, therefor art is not technical in nature! You said and I quote "Alot of art is technically better than other art", which is complete bs. =/


Yes graphics ARE art. and yes art IS technical in nature. It depends how that art is achieved. So what we have is 2 different methods of the way people view art.

1. Art ( graphics ) on a scale of best to worst are determined by how it is achieved ( eg. 640p, 720p, specular lighting etc. )

2. Art ( graphics ) on a scale of best to worst are determined by exactly what you see and how it pleases the individuals eyes. Regardless of resolution, methods of lighting etc.

Many people around the review world base their graphics scores nearly whole sole on option number 1. as do many sites that say x exclusive is better than y exclusive.

But I prefer method 2. I couldnt care less how something was achieved. Hence why Banjo Kazooie is high on my list. As is Tales Of Vesperia.



@ Selnor - Regarding your 2nd post here, I take it then you realise how awfully bad Forza 3s graphics suck balls compared to the screenshots, how everything blurs, looks cartoony and how the cockpit visuals are an absolute joke? I also take it that you admire KZ2s graphics since your after grit and intensity?

@ OP - How did U2 max out the PS3 when KZ2 didn't?



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i don't think it will. it's santa monica's first ps3 game whereas uncharted 2 was ND's second attempt.

I'm also pretty sure that I read that the graphics in the demo were 'final', i.e., that they were happy with them, and didn't really want to improve them any further. That may have changed since then though (think I read the article 5+ months ago).



Its hard to say. I played Uncharted 2 and that game is very polished. Also i played the GOW III. Like many have said it would have to be the released that will determine it for me. Man Uncharted 2 is a badass game. It beat alot of games out in '09. Well, just have to wait and see before will can truly decided. Definitely a big fan of both.



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According to what everyone who has seen the latest build for this game has said, it looks at least as good as Uncharted 2, if not better. So I'd say it definitely has a chance at being the new Console Graphics King.



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BigBoobieHead said:
@ Selnor - Regarding your 2nd post here, I take it then you realise how awfully bad Forza 3s graphics suck balls compared to the screenshots, how everything blurs, looks cartoony and how the cockpit visuals are an absolute joke? I also take it that you admire KZ2s graphics since your after grit and intensity?

@ OP - How did U2 max out the PS3 when KZ2 didn't?


1. FM3 has fantastic graphics. It doesnt have crap scenery to make other parts look slightly better. It's overall look is fantastic. And it's cockpit view is beautiful, now with moving hand for gear changes. Obviously you have not moved the cockpit view back to GT5P position. There it looks fantastic and very detailed as your not right up close to the wheel anymore. And I like that it has more colour ( what you call cartoony ) it gives it character where GT5P had no character. 

2. KZ2 I have in my list of top 10, but MW2 was more gritty and made me duck and dive my real head alot more than KZ2.



Well, they're completely different games, so it'll be next to impossible to fairly compare the two on graphics. It all comes down to personal preference, in the end.



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