DS i'd agree with more then the Wii, I think the problem there is though, for many things, no-one knows if it started with the DS or PC touchscreens or the Ipod touch, so did it define it or did it just start it?

360 seems to have defined this generation in pure featureset and connectivity over all others though.

PS2 had an incredible library, but weak visuals and a very solitary nature, like a PC with no internet.

360 was the internet for consoles in a sense.

The PS2 was a continuation of values set down in the last generation, and did not actually define much at all.

But I would actually argue the same is true of the 360, sans the integration of Xbox Live.

I completely understand naming the Wii and DS, but what did the PS2 do that helped define the decade?

Having an insane large library and selling a lot doesn't define a decade. About the only thing it really pushed was using the DVD drive that gave you a DVD player too so it started combining the gaming and media center.

That alone though, that doesn't out do anything the Wii, DS, and 360 did for gaming.

Ps2, wii or ds. Would be more appropriate. It's their list though.

Frek.. the only thing I don't own on that list are tivo and palmtree one... I'm such a nerd.. :(

The 360 has three really major things going for it:

• wireless controllers
• online multiplayer
• achievements

Wireless controllers weren't a new thing when the 360 came out, but they were never really standard before the 360.  Today, gamers hate wires for the most part and the 360 was a big helper in that.  They didn't pioneer wireless gaming, but they were a big reason everyone else is doing it, or at least they made it the standard first.

Online multiplayer also wasn't new for the 360 and the Xbox did have it, but the 360 really integrated it and with the addition of your friends list, made it a superstar.  Before the 360, co-op games and online multiplayer games existed on the consoles, but since the 360 made those things standard, there is an endless amount of bitching if games don't have it.

And achievements, so simple but so genius.  Games had rewards before but the 360 unified all that and mandated all games must have it.  Whoever had that idea, that was just a stroke of brilliance.  I really think that was the greatest thing the 360 did for gaming.

You realize you're not actually arguing with me, here. The Wavebird, the first Xbox's Live service... those are just continuations of values that were already set down. Same with Achievements, jsut made into a universal system.

You can argue that the integration of these elements defined the console, but integration of disparate elements doesn't exactly define a generation; it hasn't made for any real paradigm shifts in game design or even how he average gamer approaches games.

I was more expanding and just didn't want to edit.  :-p

I thought the wii and ds would win over xbox 360 since wii brought motion sensing technology as a standard and ds brought touch screen...but hey they are entitled to have their opinion so...

I have to agree with them good list.