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thx1139 on 28 December 2009

To be again on my points.

1st off NPD and others report PC game sales. Yes they dont have numbers for download distribution. The fact of the matter is they keep the PC game sales tracking separate from console game sales reports because they consider them different markets.

2nd yes I know you can hook a laptop up to my display in the family room. That isnt the point. It still is playing on a laptop with keyboard and mouse and now the laptop is really on my lap or me putting a TV tray or something between me and the laptop. It just isnt the experience I am looking for. There is a large amount of people that simply do not want to use keyboard and mouse for gaming.

So in the end the market considers the PC and Consoles as different markets and so calling something "exclusive" to that market is OK and isnt misleading.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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Spedfrom on 28 December 2009

I have a short story for you.

I bought Mass Effect new for 9 euros and 89 euro cents a couple of hours ago. I'm installing it as I write this. My purchase benefits Microsoft indirectly and not even by a lot. In a few minutes I will be playing and experiencing this game without having bought a Xbox 360.

Take your own conclusions.



loves2splooge on 28 December 2009
Raistline said:
loves2splooge said:
Raistline said:
I went through the list one by on on the Xbox360 and PS3, A large amount of the games listed are Japan only JRPG releases and some are DLC for the Xbox. Oh and 5 DDR games that were released for the Xbox before the PS3 was out.
There are also many that are listed as exclusives on either system that are not exclusives or were timed exclusives.

Either way, I do see your point. There are about 10-15 exclusive releases for the X-box that did not release on anything else that I think may be worth a look at cheap prices. I also have a lot more of an eclectic game preference then most people I know.
I will have to say that the argument for not getting a Xbox360 because most "Good" exclusives are available on the PC is a valid excuse. Of those 10-15 titles that I found that looked like they might be decent on the Xbox360, none of them individually or all together make it worth the expense of an additional console. Now this is just my view on the subject. Others who look at the list may find 50 exclusive they want to try and may make them want to buy an Xbox360.

The Wii has hundreds of exclusives that may be worth a look into, but most of them are cheap 5 dollar games in a 50 dollar package whipped up by EA. That does not forgo the argument that it does not have any major exclusive that Joe Blow or Tina Fae thinks makes it worth the investment. Or even that a PC has 50billion or so free flash games on it that you can't play on anything but a PC, is not going to make a console gamer need to buy a PC.

The argument about "Good" console exclusives on the Xbox360 that can be bought on the PC devalues the worth of the Xbox360 to certain people is based on value, not quantity, of said exclusives.

*the new up and coming exclusive for the Xbox360 "Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad" is more than enough reason for any 14yr pervert to want to buy an Xbox360*

Personal preferences are one thing and I respect that.  It's when PS fanboys (and this does happen often on the internet) say that the 360 doesn't have many quality exclusives as if it's fact when it's clear that the 360's exclusives are prized by it's userbase given the high sales. So we are in agreement.

360 exclusives that sold over 1 million: Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 ODST, Forza Motorsport 2, Fable II, Saints Row, Forza Motorsport 3, Project Gotham Racing 4, Dead Rising, Halo Wars, Crackdown, Project Gotham Racing 3, Perfect Dark Zero, Dead or Alive 4.

And in 2010, Crackdown 2, Alan Wake, Halo Reach and Fable III are all no brainers for the 1 million club.

Not one of these games consist of Onechanbara or Burger King. The perverted 14 year olds would rather buy DoA4 instead. lol. :p

I would say we are only in agreement to a point. This point being that you can't rule out a system without looking into it's library. That and the pint that Xbox360 does have some decent exlclusives, but not worth it for me. Here is a small example.

Of those 14 titles that are million+ sellers you listed and 4 to be million+ sellers, I only find 5 to be on interest to me.  Crackdown 1&2, PD:Zero,  Alan Awake and Saint Row.

As for for the Halo games: I think they are all over-rated, over-hyped games to which there are far better FPS games in both story, graphics and gampley available on the PC. Neither Forza or PGR 4 interest me since I like the gameplay and feel of Gran Torismo more. I am also a bigger fan of Tekken and not a fan of DoA.  I am not about to buy a 360 for those 5 games.

We all know that perverted 12-14yr olds are the major share holders in relation to xbox ownership. At least this is the indication I get when playing any game on Xbox Live at my bros. house.

I do not agree with you that the Xbox360 has a large amount of AAA exclusives. I don't think sales and popularity of a game make it great. There are numerous games that sold into the millions that are not great games. The opposite is true as well. I do admit that they have a large amount of exclusives and some seem interesting and may be great. I am sure there are many newer gamers that may find a large amount of those games to be great games. So, we agree to a piont, and disagree to a point.

When I said I'm in agreement, we are in agreement that there are plenty of gamers who see value in Xbox 360 exclusives. Which is the truth. And in terms of critical acclaim, the 360 does have six exclusive AAA games (Halo 3, Gears 2, Forza 2 and 3, Geometry Wars 2 and GTA: Lost and the Damned.) You have your own subjective preferences and that's fine (as much as I find it odd how someone can name only five good games out of 100+ exclusive games in a library after giving the library a fair assessment). What I don't agree with is when gamers use their subjective preferences to make statements as if they are fact (ie. "the 360 doesn't have many good real exclusives" or "the ps3 doesn't have any games").

Btw Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma SIXAXIS breast jiggling is all I gotta say to your perverted 12-14 year olds comment. :p



Reasonable on 28 December 2009

For the record I'v never 'bitched' about this in the manner of the OP.

Personally in terms of usefulness to the platform I see the following descending scale:

1 - true, single platform exclusive - you want it, you need the right platform, be it PC, PS3, 360, Wii , etc. - so Uncharted, Halo, Gears, God of War, etc.

2 - console exclusive - useful, but it does mean you don't need the console if you have a decent PC. If you can't afford decent PC or don't want to use PC then you only have one console choice - Mass Effect and the like

3 - exclusive DLC - a little useful but I believe not massively though.

4 - multiplatform - doesn't help directly but equals the playing field



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Aion on 28 December 2009

It's just the fanboys.



 

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slowmo on 28 December 2009
naznatips said:
scat398 said:
I'm glad that I get the option to buy a game on my 360 or my pc and I'm glad ms gives me that option. I picked up dragon age for the pc, but I'll be getting mass effect 2 for the 360.

Also, glad to have you back legend that last was just wrong.

Out of curiosity is there any particular reason you are buying ME on 360 instead of PC? I'm assuming they'll fix the issues the first ME had on 360 that were patched out of the cleaned up PC version, so it will probably be just as good on either platform. Just wondering if there was any particular reason you wanted it on 360. 

PS: It's cool of Bioware to let you use your Blood Dragon Armor code from Dragon Age in any version of Mass Effect, regardless of what platform you bought Dragon Age on.


I can't speak for him Naz but I have a pretty decent gaming PC setup and I'll be buying it on 360 too.  My reason is simply that a game like ME2 I'll be putting 30+ hours in easily I'd imagine so I'll play it on the 360 where I can share my experience with friends also playing.  My PC is hooked up to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) and has 7.1 surround sound while my 360 is hooked up to a 720p 32" TV with 5.1 so I am not experiencing anything like the same visual fidelity I could by choosing the 360 but it will be more than good enough for me to enjoy the experience and thats what counts to me.  I cannot lie that I enjoy the achievement factor in my 360 games either.

I think in terms of gameplay the PC would be identical so to me its whether the graphics factor is more important than achievements and playing with your Live mates in a party imo, some will think yes, others no I guess.



Goddbless on 28 December 2009
Seece said:
Wow, really? This AGAIN?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2771250

It's a vicious cycle!



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naznatips on 28 December 2009
slowmo said:
naznatips said:
scat398 said:
I'm glad that I get the option to buy a game on my 360 or my pc and I'm glad ms gives me that option. I picked up dragon age for the pc, but I'll be getting mass effect 2 for the 360.

Also, glad to have you back legend that last was just wrong.

Out of curiosity is there any particular reason you are buying ME on 360 instead of PC? I'm assuming they'll fix the issues the first ME had on 360 that were patched out of the cleaned up PC version, so it will probably be just as good on either platform. Just wondering if there was any particular reason you wanted it on 360. 

PS: It's cool of Bioware to let you use your Blood Dragon Armor code from Dragon Age in any version of Mass Effect, regardless of what platform you bought Dragon Age on.


I can't speak for him Naz but I have a pretty decent gaming PC setup and I'll be buying it on 360 too.  My reason is simply that a game like ME2 I'll be putting 30+ hours in easily I'd imagine so I'll play it on the 360 where I can share my experience with friends also playing.  My PC is hooked up to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) and has 7.1 surround sound while my 360 is hooked up to a 720p 32" TV with 5.1 so I am not experiencing anything like the same visual fidelity I could by choosing the 360 but it will be more than good enough for me to enjoy the experience and thats what counts to me.  I cannot lie that I enjoy the achievement factor in my 360 games either.

I think in terms of gameplay the PC would be identical so to me its whether the graphics factor is more important than achievements and playing with your Live mates in a party imo, some will think yes, others no I guess.

Fair enough. I hope however if you get Dragon Age you don't pick that up on 360. While Mass Effect's play differences would be limited to mouse vs. analog shooting Dragon Age plays massively different (and much worse) on 360. 



Badassbab on 28 December 2009

Any serious gamer would own both HD consoles. I don't bother with PC, my Acer Aspire 6530G which cost more than my Elite and Slim combined can barely play any newish game at a decent graphical setting. I'd gladely play Mass Effect 2 on my 360 + leather couch + HD TV + 5.1 surround sound than slouching over a keyboard sitting a 1 feet away from the monitor. The experiance is just not the same.






naznatips on 28 December 2009
Badassbab said:
Any serious gamer would own both HD consoles. I don't bother with PC, my Acer Aspire 6530G which cost more than my Elite and Slim combined can barely play any newish game at a decent graphical setting. I'd gladely play Mass Effect 2 on my 360 + leather couch + HD TV + 5.1 surround sound than slouching over a keyboard sitting a 1 feet away from the monitor. The experiance is just not the same.

Probably cause you bought a freaking Acer Aspire. You can't damn a gaming platform because of your inability to make informed purchase decisions. 

Also it's really not hard at all to connect a computer to a TV and use a wireless keyboard and mouse or gamepad to experience the game the exact same way you would with your consoles but with much higher resolution and better graphics. Seriously a toddler can do it. If you can hook your consoles up to your TV you can hook your PC up.