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Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.

Right. I believe we can safely conclude your name to be one of the worst misnomers ever.



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Yay! I wonder if we will see Wiimakes of DQVII/VIII before the release of DQX...



I just picked up Dragon Quest IV (because it was only £7) and I'm really surprised. I heard it wasn't the most outstanding title in the series but for such an old game it's really not bad. Square Enix should be applauded for continuing to translate the DQ titles despite their complete failure to sell... Obviously I’ll be buying VI when it’s released here.



Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.  Otherwise it was an okay trailer.

The Dragon Quest theme not only predates the 'Fire Emblem' theme (and first Fire Emblem game), but Koichi Sugiyama (music composer for Dragon Quest) actually used two Fire Emblem songs in his production of the 'Orchestrated Musical Concerts' which ran between 1991 through 1995.  If anything, since Dragon Quest I and II were the first official orchestrated versions of music ever recorded, the very theme you heard in the trailer predates Fire Emblem and any other orchestrated gaming work.  Which the first recorded version of a Fire Emblem song probably was from the third Orchestrated Gaming Concert in 1993, produced and overseen by Koichi Sugiyama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-MacNUs7o&feature=PlayList&p=FCA021B847F472A5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

forest-spirit said:
Yay! I wonder if we will see Wiimakes of DQVII/VIII before the release of DQX...

A lot of people keep bringing up the idea of a remake of Dragon Quest VII.  And while I can see the concept (they've remade every other game between I-VI, why not), I just don't see it happening.  Eventhough DQVII sold a ton in Japan, it was technically the 'least' popular outside of sales.  In Final Fantasy terms its the Final Fantasy II of the series.  Even Dragon Quest I, II and VI seem to be more popular, as constant polls and re-releases of the games sell well.  But Dragon Quest VII gets lukewarm nods from fans of the series on the same polls and comes pretty much in dead last for 'what's your favorite Dragon Quest'.

Adding to this is just that fact that you can techncially still play it on current hardware.  Its not like an NES or SNES game where you can't drop it in a Wii and play it.  Games like Dragon Quest VII and VIII will still probably work as long as Sony is still making platforms with SOME connectivity back to those platforms.

In the end, could they make a remake?  Sure.  But I just don't see it happening when the game has a pretty divided fanbase and they'd probably get more money just making a whole new game or remaking Dragon Quest III again (which they recently did for Cell Phones in Japan).

But one thing they COULD do is port Dragon Quest VIII to Wii.  Yeah, it seems like a quick way to make money...but with a few enhancements and perhaps even a little more tweaking of the graphics, it wouldn't be a bad idea.  Heck, putting one of the best games of last gen on the Wii again, why not?  They did it with Resident Evil 4 and Okami, why not Dragon Quest VIII?  I'd buy it again if it had some extras.

Rick1331 said:
I just picked up Dragon Quest IV (because it was only £7) and I'm really surprised. I heard it wasn't the most outstanding title in the series but for such an old game it's really not bad. Square Enix should be applauded for continuing to translate the DQ titles despite their complete failure to sell... Obviously I’ll be buying VI when it’s released here.

Every game i nthe series has its positives.  Personally, I love Dragon Quest IV.  Its probably my third favorite game in the series.  The only downside the series has is its western localizations, and that's probably where people downscore Dragon Quest IV.  Which that game got a REALLY bad localization.  So bad, that even some content was missing and altered.  And just that all that 'accent' and 'pun' junk was pretty bad.



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.  Otherwise it was an okay trailer.

The Dragon Quest theme not only predates the 'Fire Emblem' theme (and first Fire Emblem game), but Koichi Sugiyama (music composer for Dragon Quest) actually used two Fire Emblem songs in his production of the 'Orchestrated Musical Concerts' which ran between 1991 through 1995.  If anything, since Dragon Quest I and II were the first official orchestrated versions of music ever recorded, the very theme you heard in the trailer predates Fire Emblem and any other orchestrated gaming work.  Which the first recorded version of a Fire Emblem song probably was from the third Orchestrated Gaming Concert in 1993, produced and overseen by Koichi Sugiyama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-MacNUs7o&feature=PlayList&p=FCA021B847F472A5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

Neat information but please link to your sources next time.



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Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.  Otherwise it was an okay trailer.

The Dragon Quest theme not only predates the 'Fire Emblem' theme (and first Fire Emblem game), but Koichi Sugiyama (music composer for Dragon Quest) actually used two Fire Emblem songs in his production of the 'Orchestrated Musical Concerts' which ran between 1991 through 1995.  If anything, since Dragon Quest I and II were the first official orchestrated versions of music ever recorded, the very theme you heard in the trailer predates Fire Emblem and any other orchestrated gaming work.  Which the first recorded version of a Fire Emblem song probably was from the third Orchestrated Gaming Concert in 1993, produced and overseen by Koichi Sugiyama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-MacNUs7o&feature=PlayList&p=FCA021B847F472A5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

Neat information but please link to your sources next time.

Orchestrated Gaming Concerts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestral_Game_Music_Concerts

http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/orchestralgameconcert.htm

Koichi Sugiyama:

http://www.squareenixmusic.com/composers/sugiyama/index.shtml

http://squarehaven.com/people/Koichi-Sugiyama/

5 seconds on Google.



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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.  Otherwise it was an okay trailer.

The Dragon Quest theme not only predates the 'Fire Emblem' theme (and first Fire Emblem game), but Koichi Sugiyama (music composer for Dragon Quest) actually used two Fire Emblem songs in his production of the 'Orchestrated Musical Concerts' which ran between 1991 through 1995.  If anything, since Dragon Quest I and II were the first official orchestrated versions of music ever recorded, the very theme you heard in the trailer predates Fire Emblem and any other orchestrated gaming work.  Which the first recorded version of a Fire Emblem song probably was from the third Orchestrated Gaming Concert in 1993, produced and overseen by Koichi Sugiyama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-MacNUs7o&feature=PlayList&p=FCA021B847F472A5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

Neat information but please link to your sources next time.

Orchestrated Gaming Concerts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestral_Game_Music_Concerts

http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/orchestralgameconcert.htm

Koichi Sugiyama:

http://www.squareenixmusic.com/composers/sugiyama/index.shtml

http://squarehaven.com/people/Koichi-Sugiyama/

5 seconds on Google.

If it was 5 seconds then why didn't you do it in your first post?  And your 3rd link isn't even relevant so why add that?

You're really not helpful at all.



Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Feels like they ripped that orchaestra song from Fire Emblem.  Otherwise it was an okay trailer.

The Dragon Quest theme not only predates the 'Fire Emblem' theme (and first Fire Emblem game), but Koichi Sugiyama (music composer for Dragon Quest) actually used two Fire Emblem songs in his production of the 'Orchestrated Musical Concerts' which ran between 1991 through 1995.  If anything, since Dragon Quest I and II were the first official orchestrated versions of music ever recorded, the very theme you heard in the trailer predates Fire Emblem and any other orchestrated gaming work.  Which the first recorded version of a Fire Emblem song probably was from the third Orchestrated Gaming Concert in 1993, produced and overseen by Koichi Sugiyama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-MacNUs7o&feature=PlayList&p=FCA021B847F472A5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

Neat information but please link to your sources next time.

Orchestrated Gaming Concerts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestral_Game_Music_Concerts

http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/orchestralgameconcert.htm

Koichi Sugiyama:

http://www.squareenixmusic.com/composers/sugiyama/index.shtml

http://squarehaven.com/people/Koichi-Sugiyama/

5 seconds on Google.

If it was 5 seconds then why didn't you do it in your first post?  And your 3rd link isn't even relevant so why add that?

You're really not helpful at all.

"Koichi Sugiyama's music was the source of the very first game-related symphonic suite, live concert, and ballet performance. His various breakthroughs influenced all game music composers, especially Nobuo Uematsu."

From the third link itself.  Also I don't need to 'prove' anything to you.  I'm just doing it now because you're being such a dick.

Please, if you just want a ego battle, go somewhere else.  I don't want to go 10 rounds of 'oh yeah, well riddle me this' to try to salvage your ego for whatever reason.  You pretty much stuffed your foot in your mouth with your first post.



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Actually, I love the puns and accents. Much better than the blandness of earlier translations. Only quibble I have with with the Westernizations are the new goofy nomenclature for spells and abilities.



Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.

Kenryoku_Maxis said:

"Koichi Sugiyama's music was the source of the very first game-related symphonic suite, live concert, and ballet performance. His various breakthroughs influenced all game music composers, especially Nobuo Uematsu."

From the third link itself.  Also I don't need to 'prove' anything to you.  I'm just doing it now because you're being such a dick.

Please, if you just want a ego battle, go somewhere else.  I don't want to go 10 rounds of 'oh yeah, well riddle me this' to try to salvage your ego for whatever reason.  You pretty much stuffed your foot in your mouth with your first post.

Look, it's not an ego battle and never was.  I don't know anything about Koichi Sugiyama, didn't recognize the DQ song in the trailer, and commented because it heavily resembled one of the Fire Emblem songs I've heard. 

You posted information and I said it was neat but to post your sources next time (because they might actually be useful to someone not familiar with it).  You come back with your "5 second google search" comment which clearly has a nasty attitude attached to with it along the lines of "Well how dare I have to post sources to what I say."

My response is that one of your sources doesn't even seem relevant to what you said so why are you posting things that aren't even your real sources? 

And your response is to call me a dick?  Look, asking for sources may have upset you but don't take it personally and don't get nasty because someone might actually want learn from something other than your posts.