Ok maybe I used the wrong words. But a war based on such thin informations. Is just stupid. I fully support Afghanistan war because there are a lot of reasons for this. But iraq was a giant mistake. Why the hell he dont made war with North korea they have evidently nuclear weapons.

And I still doubt that the CIA had informations which doesnt even existed. a war based on some statements of some agents but why the agents lied ? Sorry it was his responsibility and what is wrong with the CIA that they have false informations and gave them to the president ?

I cant believe that this was actually happening and if it was happening I cant believe that the most powerful man on this planet can be tricked so easy that it leads to a war. And who tricked him had the CIA interested giving wrong informations or is the CIA really so simple that they wont check informations of such an importance.

No the US government has caused the war unless I have no informations that indicate otherwise I wont change my mind.

just to make it clear TERRORIST ARE NOT IRAQ.

Proof?  You want someone to prove they're innocent... that's stupid.  Do you have proof you didn't kidnap the Lindbergh baby?

Though still... here. 

MI6 had an alternative report of Nuclear Weapons.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/08/45-minutes-wmd-taxi-driver

There is also the fact that Saddam Hussen actually wanted the world to think he had WMDs.  It was a ploy to prevent Iran from attacking.  He didn't think the US would attack after bungling the North Korea thing.  Also, he did actually plan to aquire WMDs just didn't start up the plans yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/27/saddam.cbs/index.html

Not that I condone terrorism, far from it. But you do realize that the US was founded on terrorism, right? All I'm saying is that terrorism depends on the PoV. It's an effective way for a weak entity to fight a far far more powerful entity.

Please elaborate.

Funny, I always thought it was built on racism

What? It that a joke that I don't get?

perhaps you "know" more because you seem very keen on stating on how evil and wrong they are

@kasz216

Ok no proof but atleast some indication. But I still think that a government like USA shouldnt be tricked by anyone. Maybe the CIA is not as powerful as I thought. But even if he made it seem that he had Weapons of Massdestruction why the hell they just care in Iraq ? North Korea has them and nothing happens.

The USA said yes to the rules of the UN but the UN said there is not enough evidence for a war but the USA proced further. And even the US citizens think it was a mistake. And the USA is the leading Country in the world and want to stand for freedom democrazy and human rights. They are ofcourse measured completly different then a country like Iraq . They are the leader and have responsibilitys and they have to be BETTER then the rest of the world. The US superiority was always a moralic superirority atleast until the Vietnam war.


I think what vlad meant it was basically a terrorism against UK it was per definition really terrorism even if the motivation was another one.

I obviously dont agree with such a statement but i think Iraq war was a huge mistake and USA will have to pay long enough for it because it heated on terrorism and not calmed down it.





Had the US some real evidence for the war or was it just hearsay. Had they pictures from satelittes or from agents ?

And its the same you said why the hell I want a proof that bush is innocent. But the USA had no real proof that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They made a psyhcological profil from hitler and were able to predict some actions they made this for saddam hussein too but why the hell so they could have known he would make up such a shit to defend his country.

@Nkaj

I am not keen on stating how wrong and evil they are. I just stated the US government made a mistake with the Iraq war. And I sayed they had to know it because they are the super power and not Iraq.

I also said that I agree with Afghanistan war. and with they I adressed the bush government and not the US citizens. And if you read their media you will see they obviously think the same way. IRAQ WAS A MISTAKE.

Let's start with something as simple as the Boston Tea Party. If that wasn't an act of terrorism then I don't know what it would be classified as. Then, in the beginning of the war, the revolutionaries used more or less tactics that "terrorists" in Iraq are currently using. That is, inflicting as much psychological and physical damage with the least amount of casualties. Only when the ground was a little more fair, still not too advantageous of the States, did true battles start and cheap tactics ended.

Of course, the history books from the US would never tell you that, bu that's to be expected. As I stated, terrorism depends on a person's Point of View.