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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan as a "region" on VGC?

XiaoMay on 26 December 2009

As far as i remember japan has its own realease politic like north America. It also is home of a lot of gales.

Uk is just a part of pal region.



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Lostplanet22 on 26 December 2009
Demotruk said:
kowenicki said:
Demotruk said:
UK and US are easily identifiable as parts of the larger markets that are Europe (or 'others') and America. Japan however is a very distinct, independent market, even if it's in decline.

Personally though, I think the EU should be separated from 'others' as it is clearly a very big, market, distinct from many other parts of 'others' in that it's the industrialized West.

Or perhaps it should be done as close as possible to how the big three divide the market? That way you would separate America, Europe, Japan, Australia/New Zealand and 'others'.


in that case isnt Japan easily identifiable as the largest part of the Asian market?

No, Japan is the only signifigant market for games in Asia. Korea may get there eventually, but right now it's not important enough. USA is part of the same market as Canada, which has similar trends and is operated by the same divisions of the big three. The UK only differs a little from the rest of the EU market as it's English speaking and more culturally influenced by the US. It's less distinct when you include the other English speaking sections of 'others', Australia, New Zealand and Ireland.

What?

China's  game market is reported to hit 41 billion yuan ($6 billion USD) in 2010.

How much is that in Japan right now?   But hey I forgive you because this is a console sales site chartz.



 

Ajax on 26 December 2009


If a game bombs in NA, EU or Japan it can seriously hurt a developer, and determine the succes or failure of a game.

If a game bombs in the UK, then.. it bombed in the UK.. not nice, will hurt sales, just like bombing in Germany and France would hurt, but no way problematic like bombing in NA, EU or Japan.

The UK is just a region, as I also showed with those figures in my last post.



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theprof00 on 26 December 2009

Because Sony is slaughtering xbox in Japan...

I know you hate looking at that everyday, but that is the exact reason why the higher-ups in vgc did it; to annoy MS fans.



STEKSTAV on 26 December 2009

Id say no one cares about UK sales, while Japan has exclusives for that region, they release their own numbers for people who are interested in what they show etc. UK isn't of any interest.

UK is Europe.. no one sits and go "i can't wait to see how this and that game does in the UK". But articles, forums and news sites post massive amount of content on how games and consoles does in Japan.

UK is boring.



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Ajax on 26 December 2009

On a good note: at least England has reached the world cup finals and seems to have a good team too. I'm looking forward to their first match England - USA.
I think that if England manages to win the world cup they should get their own separate sales chart right on the front page! :)



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MontanaHatchet on 26 December 2009
FootballFan said:
Ajax said:
FootballFan said:
Koweniki is right!

Why does Japan get a god given right to have a region wheras no other country gets that.


lol

you've got to be joking


As Koweniki previously stated, Japan despite a massive population in comparison to the UK is failing in terms of home console sales which is the bulk of this sites origins. Obviously you know that Japan isn't bigger region than America? Right? Ok im sorry for presuming that you are aware of the size of Japan. Here is a world Map for your convinience:

Here is a website for console sales and you can go to Japan and see how low things are in comparison to the USA and Proportinally to the UK.

www.vgchartz.com

And finally here is a site which can give you world population to see how poorly Japan is performing considering its the "GOD" of gaming and that its so much greater than every other country

www.google.com

 

 

So what, home console sales are the only thing that matters? The DS sells tons of software and has more million sellers than any other console, so why should it be discounted? So that you can cherrypick certain facts and pretend to have a strong argument? Nah-uh. Japan stills sells a ton of software and hardware, and the type of games that sell in the UK are generally the same types of games that sell in either the Americas or the rest of Europe.



 

 

theprof00 on 26 December 2009
STEKSTAV said:
Id say no one cares about UK sales, while Japan has exclusives for that region, they release their own numbers for people who are interested in what they show etc. UK isn't of any interest.

UK is Europe.. no one sits and go "i can't wait to see how this and that game does in the UK". But articles, forums and news sites post massive amount of content on how games and consoles does in Japan.

UK is boring.

This is a great point.

There are many Japan-exclusive games out there which are internally targeted. They don't see release in any other country unless they become popular enough in Japan. The rest of the world barely sees 10% of Japanese games....

So, Japan only sales is a very important number, both to give evidence for possible exports, and to understand why some Japanese games sell, and some don't.

 

If a game is released in the UK, it will pretty much be released everywhere else, so it doesn't really make sense to track UK only sales, since they aren't really that vital for a game to be successful, unlike NA and Japan.



Demotruk on 26 December 2009
Lostplanet22 said:
Demotruk said:

No, Japan is the only signifigant market for games in Asia. Korea may get there eventually, but right now it's not important enough. USA is part of the same market as Canada, which has similar trends and is operated by the same divisions of the big three. The UK only differs a little from the rest of the EU market as it's English speaking and more culturally influenced by the US. It's less distinct when you include the other English speaking sections of 'others', Australia, New Zealand and Ireland.

What?

China's  game market is reported to hit 41 billion yuan ($6 billion USD) in 2010.

How much is that in Japan right now?   But hey I forgive you because this is a console sales site chartz.

Well, you know the context we're talking about, as you acknowledge it yourself.



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Lostplanet22 on 26 December 2009
Demotruk said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Demotruk said:

No, Japan is the only signifigant market for games in Asia. Korea may get there eventually, but right now it's not important enough. USA is part of the same market as Canada, which has similar trends and is operated by the same divisions of the big three. The UK only differs a little from the rest of the EU market as it's English speaking and more culturally influenced by the US. It's less distinct when you include the other English speaking sections of 'others', Australia, New Zealand and Ireland.

What?

China's  game market is reported to hit 41 billion yuan ($6 billion USD) in 2010.

How much is that in Japan right now?   But hey I forgive you because this is a console sales site chartz.

Well, you know the context we're talking about, as you acknowledge it yourself.

Well it was hard for me to ignore a statement like that, anyway let my post don't go off topic.