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Has there ever been a console were sales increased, year-over-year, after a peak year?



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DM235 said:
Has there ever been a console were sales increased, year-over-year, after a peak year?

According to TheSources estimates, yes the NES did it. (go to this page for complete color coding). The GB also increased, but that can be accounted for by the GBC.

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3035

The system to ship the most units in the financial year is bolded in the table below. Remember that blue are estimates, black is from financial reports (unit sales to retail), red is projected for the year ending March 2009, and orange are production shipments from Sony (rather than unit sales to retail) which should not be combined with unit sales figures.

FY NES SNES N64 GC Wii GB GBA DS PS1 PS2 PSP PS3 MS Gen Sat DC Xbox 360
82 0.0
















83 0.5
















84 2.5
















85 2.0










0.0




86 4.5










0.3




87 8.0










1.3




88 9.5



0.0





2.3 0.0



89 8.0



0.9





2.9 0.4



90 5.3 0.0


2.8





2.3 1.1



91 8.5 1.6


8.0





1.7 2.1



92 6.0 8.0


10.5





1.4 4.6



93 5.2 11.5


7.8





0.7 6.8



94 1.1 11.1


7.5

0.0


0.5 7.7 0.0


95 0.4 4.4


5.5

0.9


0.0 3.9 0.8


96 0.1 5.8 0.0

4.1

3.4



2.1 2.6


97 0.1 3.3 5.8

7.0

9.2



1.7 4.2


98 0.1 2.4 9.4

10.4

19.3



0.5 0.9 0.0

99 0.1 1.0 7.9

13.0

21.6 0.0


0.0 0.3 0.9

00' 0.1 0.1 6.5

17.5 0.0
18.5 1.4


0.0 0.0 4.7

01' 0.0 0.0 2.9 0.0
18.9 1.1
9.3 9.2




2.6 0.0
02' 0.0 0.0 0.5 3.8
4.7 17.1
7.4 18.1




0.8 3.1
03' 0.0
0.0 5.8
0.3 15.7
6.8 22.5




0.1 5.5
04' 0.0

5.0
0.0 17.6 0.0 3.3 20.1 0.0



0.0 5.8
05'


3.9

15.4 5.3 2.8 16.2 3.0




6.3 0.0
06'

2.4 0.0
8.3 11.5 0.0 16.2 14.1 0.0



3.4 3.2
07'

0.7 5.8
4.3 23.6
14.7 9.5 3.6



0.6 7.7
08'

0.2 18.6
1.6 30.3
13.7 13.9 9.2



0.0 8.1
09'

0.0 26.5
0.4 31.5
8.0 15.0 10.0




11.3

 




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TWRoO said:
I don't see the Wii declining in 2010.

I think it will beat 2009, but not match 2008, then decline from then on.

Perhaps:
6 - 18 - 26 - 20 - 23 - 20 - 16 - 13 - 9 - 6 - 2

Though it will depend on what happens at the start of next gen for those last 4-5 years really.

Those would be pretty incredible numbers!



Any idea what caused the bump in sales for the NES in 1991? I would have thought that would have been SMB3, but it came out in 1990...



DM235 said:
Any idea what caused the bump in sales for the NES in 1991? I would have thought that would have been SMB3, but it came out in 1990...

Fiscal years end in March, so the 1991 Fiscal Year ran from April 1990 to March 1991



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Any idea what caused the bump in sales for the NES in 1991? I would have thought that would have been SMB3, but it came out in 1990...

upon further reading of the article I linked (actually in the software section), I may have discovered the reason for the bump.

The NES is a good indication of how small the videogame industry used to be. In its time, with 85-93% market share of the USA & Japan videogame markets the NES never really came that close to topping 100m units of software shipped in a single year. It is fair to say that the NES was the main catalyst for lifting the world videogame software market to over 100m for the first time in FY 1988 when other small systems (made by Atari, NEC and others) are added into the software totals above. The dip in FY 1990 is artificial - it was 7/12 of a year for Nintendo. If that is the case, then the videogame industry has never seen software shipments dip below 100m since the late 1980s, although FY 1995 is a tough call. This is a testament to the stability provided by the NES.

It looks like Nintendo adjusted their fiscal year and cut off 5 months, which would explain the drop to 5m units. However, it still managed to go back up from 8m to 8.5m, which while it isn't a major increase, essentially states that it maintained sales for 1.5 years after the peak.




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^Ahh yes, that too (FY1991 still ran from April 1990 to March 1991, but the previous FY was September 1989 - March 1990)



nordlead said:
DM235 said:
Any idea what caused the bump in sales for the NES in 1991? I would have thought that would have been SMB3, but it came out in 1990...

upon further reading of the article I linked (actually in the software section), I may have discovered the reason for the bump.

It looks like Nintendo adjusted their fiscal year and cut off 5 months, which would explain the drop to 5m units. However, it still managed to go back up from 8m to 8.5m, which while it isn't a major increase, essentially states that it maintained sales for 1.5 years after the peak.


Sorry, I just skimmed the article and I missed that.

Anyhow, so does that mean that the NES only maintained its sales after the peak year, and therefore never had a dip and then a bounce back?  If that's the case, then that means no system has ever increased in sales after a peak year?

So unless the Wii is going to break that rule, historically speaking since it peaked in 2008 (2009 FY), and we only expect to see 20 million this fiscal year, the Wii should only maintain these numbers for next year, or decline?



DM235 said:
nordlead said:
DM235 said:
Any idea what caused the bump in sales for the NES in 1991? I would have thought that would have been SMB3, but it came out in 1990...

upon further reading of the article I linked (actually in the software section), I may have discovered the reason for the bump.

It looks like Nintendo adjusted their fiscal year and cut off 5 months, which would explain the drop to 5m units. However, it still managed to go back up from 8m to 8.5m, which while it isn't a major increase, essentially states that it maintained sales for 1.5 years after the peak.


Sorry, I just skimmed the article and I missed that.

Anyhow, so does that mean that the NES only maintained its sales after the peak year, and therefore never had a dip and then a bounce back?  If that's the case, then that means no system has ever increased in sales after a peak year?

So unless the Wii is going to break that rule, historically speaking since it peaked in 2008 (2009 FY), and we only expect to see 20 million this fiscal year, the Wii should only maintain these numbers for next year, or decline?

I missed it too, as that article is huge. I just remembered seeing the NES have 2 peaks so I searched for the article.

So yes, the Wii would be the 1st system to ever have 2 legitimate peaks if it sold more in the next fiscal year as far as I can tell anyways.




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Didn't the PS2 get a slight bump 2 years after its peak?