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outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

You seem hellbent on downplaying the success of this game.

How was I downplaying it's success?  If anything I was correcting those overstating it's success...

* sigh *

jarrod said: "You didn't say console. Besides, even then it's going to get beat by DQX"

That would be looking for reasons to knock the game in some way. Don't know what your intention is, but I'm not sure of what DQX has to do with FFXIII first day sales.

Correcting someone who said something incorredt is downplaying?

You guys are too sensitive...

It's like when people were bitching at me for saying the game would have to sell 2 million in japan to be succesfful...

everyone started bitching at me... then surprise surprise Wada announced SE expected to sell.... 2 million copies in Japan.

 

Final Fantasy just has higher standards of sales then other PS3 games.

 

Stop being so defensive because your used to the other foot dropping.

I agree. Some people are taking negative comments about a game almost personally.

His wasn't even negative.  It just wasn't blowing sunshine up your butt positive.  (Neither was mine... which turned out to be spot on despite people still doubting it... when Wada even said as much.)

DQ passing it is VERY likely, though then again... I can't help but feel people are migrating away from consoles in Japan.

In all honestly, most RPGs that don't try to be inventive... aren't any better in 3D then they are 2D.

It's why... although I wasn't a fan of 12's system as much as the menu based systems... I understand it.


There was nothing in 7-10 that couldn't of been accomplished in a 2D setting. (well outside a couple minigames maybe?)



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i may be mistaken but I think stating a possibility as fact is the downplay...



Those are some good sales.



 

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letsdance said:
i may be mistaken but I think stating a possibility as fact is the downplay...

possibility, yes.  Probability, no.

It just fits in with the correction honestly.

It'd be like if someone claimed the USA was the second best soccer team in the wolrd because they won in the confederations cup.  Not only are their other performances... there is a high probability that it will be surpassed even in the narrow criteria it did succeed in.

The only think that would make it not so, would be if the fleeing from home consoles increases in future years.



I hate your soccer analogy.



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Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

You seem hellbent on downplaying the success of this game.

How was I downplaying it's success?  If anything I was correcting those overstating it's success...

* sigh *

jarrod said: "You didn't say console. Besides, even then it's going to get beat by DQX"

That would be looking for reasons to knock the game in some way. Don't know what your intention is, but I'm not sure of what DQX has to do with FFXIII first day sales.

Correcting someone who said something incorredt is downplaying?

You guys are too sensitive...

It's like when people were bitching at me for saying the game would have to sell 2 million in japan to be succesfful...

everyone started bitching at me... then surprise surprise Wada announced SE expected to sell.... 2 million copies in Japan.

 

Final Fantasy just has higher standards of sales then other PS3 games.

 

Stop being so defensive because your used to the other foot dropping.

I agree. Some people are taking negative comments about a game almost personally.

His wasn't even negative.  It just wasn't blowing sunshine up your butt positive.  (Neither was mine... which turned out to be spot on despite people still doubting it... when Wada even said as much.)

DQ passing it is VERY likely, though then again... I can't help but feel people are migrating away from consoles in Japan.

In all honestly, most RPGs that don't try to be inventive... aren't any better in 3D then they are 2D.

It's why... although I wasn't a fan of 12's system as much as the menu based systems... I understand it.


There was nothing in 7-10 that couldn't of been accomplished in a 2D setting. (well outside a couple minigames maybe?)

The whole DQX passing in 2-3 years whenever it releases seem pretty childish though. It's like some consolation prize or rain on a parade. It's the trump to make the sales not be as impressive as they are.



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letsdance said:
I hate your soccer analogy.

It's as good of an international one as i could think of at the time.


Though I have a better one.

 

Say I were to say in August "Wow it's the coldest day of the year!"

Is it downplaying the cold if you were to say "Wait till december!".


Of course not.  It is just a simple fact that in all likely probability December will be colder in August.



outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

You seem hellbent on downplaying the success of this game.

How was I downplaying it's success?  If anything I was correcting those overstating it's success...

* sigh *

jarrod said: "You didn't say console. Besides, even then it's going to get beat by DQX"

That would be looking for reasons to knock the game in some way. Don't know what your intention is, but I'm not sure of what DQX has to do with FFXIII first day sales.

Correcting someone who said something incorredt is downplaying?

You guys are too sensitive...

It's like when people were bitching at me for saying the game would have to sell 2 million in japan to be succesfful...

everyone started bitching at me... then surprise surprise Wada announced SE expected to sell.... 2 million copies in Japan.

 

Final Fantasy just has higher standards of sales then other PS3 games.

 

Stop being so defensive because your used to the other foot dropping.

I agree. Some people are taking negative comments about a game almost personally.

His wasn't even negative.  It just wasn't blowing sunshine up your butt positive.  (Neither was mine... which turned out to be spot on despite people still doubting it... when Wada even said as much.)

DQ passing it is VERY likely, though then again... I can't help but feel people are migrating away from consoles in Japan.

In all honestly, most RPGs that don't try to be inventive... aren't any better in 3D then they are 2D.

It's why... although I wasn't a fan of 12's system as much as the menu based systems... I understand it.


There was nothing in 7-10 that couldn't of been accomplished in a 2D setting. (well outside a couple minigames maybe?)

The whole DQX passing in 2-3 years whenever it releases seem pretty childish though. It's like some consolation prize or rain on a parade. It's the trump to make the sales not be as impressive as they are.

Not... really.  It's just basic predictions.  I seem to recall many people saying when others were talking about RPG sales being good "Wait for FF13".

Heck, i'm pretty sure that was the case for some non RPGs when it came to sales in Japan.

It seems only fair to note when a current reign may be usurped.



Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

You seem hellbent on downplaying the success of this game.

How was I downplaying it's success?  If anything I was correcting those overstating it's success...

* sigh *

jarrod said: "You didn't say console. Besides, even then it's going to get beat by DQX"

That would be looking for reasons to knock the game in some way. Don't know what your intention is, but I'm not sure of what DQX has to do with FFXIII first day sales.

Correcting someone who said something incorredt is downplaying?

You guys are too sensitive...

It's like when people were bitching at me for saying the game would have to sell 2 million in japan to be succesfful...

everyone started bitching at me... then surprise surprise Wada announced SE expected to sell.... 2 million copies in Japan.

 

Final Fantasy just has higher standards of sales then other PS3 games.

 

Stop being so defensive because your used to the other foot dropping.

I agree. Some people are taking negative comments about a game almost personally.

His wasn't even negative.  It just wasn't blowing sunshine up your butt positive.  (Neither was mine... which turned out to be spot on despite people still doubting it... when Wada even said as much.)

DQ passing it is VERY likely, though then again... I can't help but feel people are migrating away from consoles in Japan.

In all honestly, most RPGs that don't try to be inventive... aren't any better in 3D then they are 2D.

It's why... although I wasn't a fan of 12's system as much as the menu based systems... I understand it.


There was nothing in 7-10 that couldn't of been accomplished in a 2D setting. (well outside a couple minigames maybe?)

Haha it was worse when Metal Gear Solid 4 came out.  I swear if your post wasn't complimenting Sony, PS3, Kojima, Konami, and the Metal Gear Series including the 4th one then it was negative and you were trolling.  Hell it didn't matter where ya posted it, had to be in every topic.  Oh that really pissed me off then and one of the few times I had ever got seriously angry of how silly people were acting.  Did the same thing for KZ2.

 

I've been warning people for a month or 2 now to not turn FF13 into MGS4 or KZ2.  Because when people do things like that they make people hate the game out of false pretenses when indeed they should be pissed at the people doing that.  So I've been warning people for quite sometime to not do that with FF13 and it doesn't seem like they listened.  Every game deserves positive and negative criticism... some to more extremes or less extremes than others.  To think that people can actually try to guard it from that is just atrocious.  I've already had one of my posts which was very neutral been even swatted down by a mod with simply damage control.

I'm telling you people, you make people hate the game because of things you do and that's just not fair to the game. 

 

Thank you Kaz for kinda bluntly putting it to people because it needs to happen.  All sales are up for discussion and none deserves to be less critical or more critical in analysis (although more critique will come to the bigger games).  Don't try to damage control that because it is going to happen.  And the other side shouldn't use every waking minute to bring somethign down just because it is a big game.  People did it to New Super Mario Bros Wii first day sales and they are doing it to FF13.  No need for American politics "he said she said" to be involved in these discussions. 

 

Now beyond that dirty business, I think the first day sales are quite good.  Other than that, not much more I can say til first day finite numbers are in and first week is in.  I'm more curious though about PS3 sales than how well FF13 does because that matters a little more to a grand scheme of things but still will be interesting.



1 million is pretty decent. Not awe-inspiring (given how well the series has done), but decent.

Should hit 1.3-1.5m first week which is lower than previous iterations. Most likely, it will sell worse in Japan than any other recent mainline Final Fantasy. However, with it being multi-plat in the west, I think Square will be rewarded greatly for that.



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