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darthdevidem01 on 16 December 2009
mrstickball said:
darthdevidem01 said:
dolemit3 said:
ioi said:
mrstickball said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ioi said:
Yes, if i were Namco I'd be looking to release the next one as a PS3/Wii multiplat, maybe sell 300k on PS3 and 175k on Wii or something like that to get close to 500k total.

Exactly!!

in fact the next FF should be multiplat like this too

Why should the Wii get preference on a Tales multiplat? It'd probably make more sense on a PS3/X360 Tales multiplat, as you could use the same resources, as well as the fact that Vesperia on 360 has sold similarly to what both Wii Tales games will likely end up at.

I'm primarly stating this due to dev resources, rather than anything else. A true multi-plat would be very interesting, and if the development costs weren't too high, you could probably get a Tales game back up to >500k.

9m userbase vs 1.2m userbase?

9m userbase that cares nothing about Tales.

not after Dragon Quest 10

Who says DQX will come out before the next Tales? Who says that the DQ fans will augment other RPGs? I'm not saying those are certanties, but a developer has to rely on what they know.

I certainly understand the user base argument, however, I am trying to think about the cost(s) of developing a game for the PS3 and then porting to the Wii. From what we've seen, it takes a considerable re-write to port a game from the PS3 to the Wii, whereas going from the PS3 to the 360 is much more cost-effective.

Since that is the case, wouldn't it make more sense to spend less money on porting, and see close to similar results? Vesperia on 360 sold >200,000 units in Japan, which was within 5% of ToS:DONTW. Had Vesperia came out first, it may have even outsold DOTNW.

Of course, this may be speculative. We don't know how multi-plat JRPGs do in Japan quite yet. If the X360/PS3 multi-plats are any indicaiton, then they do very well (as we've seen PS3/X360 multis do very well on all formats).

 

Many points you make are correct

my main argmen with DQ10 is that it brings the JRPG fan base onto the wii, so basically Tales will have a much better chance of selling more due to a potential fan base on the console



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kopstudent89 on 16 December 2009
trestres said:
@darth: The Wii sold 170k units this same week in 2007, but yeah, a lot better than last year.

however back in 2007 it was the week ending 16th, this time its the week ending 12th. So i'd still say 140k is very impressive since its further away from the holidays



trestres on 16 December 2009

True.



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Naum on 16 December 2009

Lets see... ToG released on a system with very very few RPG's out(few decent ones) and also released between the 2 biggest games this year,hell we might even say this gen, NSMBW and FFXIII and people are surprised?



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outlawauron on 16 December 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
trestres said:
@darth: The Wii sold 170k units this same week in 2007, but yeah, a lot better than last year.

oh sorry

how the hell did it do that well in 07

Wii Sports was still huge.



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trestres on 16 December 2009

Actually it was Wii Fit, it was just released a couple weeks ago.



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kopstudent89 on 16 December 2009

Wii Fit and SMG were the holiday releases(first mario game) and both Wii sports and Wii play were still selling well. Plus the momentum was already there so it carried on impressively naturally. However this year Nintendo had t actually break a slimp to invegorate sales, i'd say this year's numbers are more impressive if put in that perspective



trestres on 16 December 2009

I think no omne's denying that, but considering it has recently had its biggest release ever, 3 different HW bundles and it's now 50$ cheaper, it's not as impressive as it may seem.



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FreeTalkLive on 16 December 2009
Soriku said:
Rei said:
First Monster Hunter, then Final Fantasy, now Tales of. I doubt that Wii will see a lot of japanese 3rd party support next year.

Although Nintendo probably doesnt care about that.


Wait, MH3 sold bad? Someone is uninformed.

Maybe he is saying that since Wii has had so much Japanese 3rd party support in 2009, that is will be hard for Wii to get the same kind of support in 2010.  It makes sense to me.  Wii may get one more FF in 2010 though, because it gets so many.  Look for DQ in 2011.



 

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trestres on 16 December 2009

If the Wii doesn't get support in 2010, it's not because it had a lot this year (which it hand't, just a few major games), but because 3rd party devs are not interested in developing for the Wii anymore. PS2 had huge support throughout all its lifetime and now PS3 is getting way more support than the Wii, which is the market leader. It's a case of 3rd parties not wanting to develop for the Wii and shifting resources elsewhere.



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