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Wii_Master said:
I agree that U2 was a very good game but it doesn't deserve GOTY. NSMBWii does.
NSMBWii brought a lot more new things than U2 did.

OT:

Agreed with twesterm that Uncharted series should and probably will stop after the third iteration. Gears shouldn't go any further than 2 iterations.

1. Name all the things NSMB Wii has done, that haven't been done before.

2. You will soon stop saying U2 doesn't deserve GotY when you see 90% of sites give it the GotY award.

3. Actually play Gears 2.



                            

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I expect to see an Uncharted 3,4 and possibly a PSP2(who knows what it will be called) game



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My Fanboy Speech...

Why do you have to make excuses to defend a product that you purchased, but that's the only connection you have to it, you don't make it, you don't lose or gain money on it. I don't see where all of the defensiveness comes in, there is no reason for you or anybody else to feel obligated to defend it. Now I would understand if one of you were a developer for the product and you slaved over said product only to hear somebody call it stupid or a piece of junk. But none of you developed it, none of you are mature enough to realize that. Choosing a product all comes down to preference, you chose said product because it is best for you. Simple as that!

No, and don't get me wrong, Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are some of the best games this generation. But I think what you're getting at is them being on a MGS, Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy level and there is no way. What Uncharted does is perfectly melds several formulas together into a cohesive whole. However, the story, which is a pretty big deal in a game like this, is pretty formulaic and ultimately not as memorable as would be necessary for long-term rememberance like that.

Uncharted is genre fiction, like John Grisham with his lawyer stories. The thing about genre fiction is that in order to fit into that genre, you HAVE TO be formulaic. You can't go outside of the box too far, or you're just making regular fiction. Compare that to final fantasy, they just re-make the box for every game. Metal Gear Solid has such a convincing alternate reality, and is focused almost to a fault on telling it's story. Mario and Zelda almost completely eschew the story for gameplay. All of these games, which are the greatest gaming series of all time, do something better than Uncharted does, which I believe will put uncharted in the same category as Bioshock. We'll think back and go "Hey yeah, that was a great game, wonder whatever happened to that?" and then move onto whatever is the newest darling of the moment.



kowenicki said:
Necromunda said:
kowenicki said:
I do agree with Twesterm though.... both Gears and Uncharted should stop at their third iteration.

I agree on gears but it could be argued differently with Uncharted. The Gears world doesn't have as much room for expansion as Uncharted IMO. There are still so many uncharted places and adventures to see. As long as Naughty Dog keeps it up with the standards of 2 I say hell, why not keep going, obviously don't milk the franchise, but maybe go a few more games after 3.


possibly, but the humour and style may become a little tired after three adventures....

Thats when you add in new things, different experiences and gameplay elements, new key characters. These things when implemented well will keep the series fresh for a few more games if they decide to continue after 3.



Bump? Lol I am surprised this topic isn't getting more attention.



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I disagree with Uncharted stopping after three iterations.

Look at R&C. EIGHT games. EIGHT! With that sort of universe, you can really move onto anything, and if you're running out of ideas, you can always say "HE WASN'T DEAD JUST ON A METEOR" and everything's fine.

Gears, yes. Alien invasions have to end, and COG was formed to protect the Earth. That can't go on very long. But Uncharted has an endless supply of mythological artifacts to choose from. Thousands of years of history from dozens of different cultures. And then there's how he actually met Eddy Raja, which Eye of Indra annoyingly didn't explain.



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Carl2291 said:
Wii_Master said:
I agree that U2 was a very good game but it doesn't deserve GOTY. NSMBWii does.
NSMBWii brought a lot more new things than U2 did.

OT:

Agreed with twesterm that Uncharted series should and probably will stop after the third iteration. Gears shouldn't go any further than 2 iterations.

1. Name all the things NSMB Wii has done, that haven't been done before.

2. You will soon stop saying U2 doesn't deserve GotY when you see 90% of sites give it the GotY award.

3. Actually play Gears 2.

1. 4 Player - Do i need to say more? Really...Come on for the first time.

2. Agreed with you on that point because even though I want NSMBWii to come as GOTy on many sites U2 will because most of the sites are bised against wii..and thats not to say U2 was a great game (i personally loved it and hope for more (my friends ps3)) but for me NSMBWii deserves it more..

3. IAgreed on that because I have only played Gears for about 3 hours and its a great game and it doesn't really have much room for improvement so if it keeps on going then in my opinion it might start to feel a little old so instead why not stop making gears after 2nd iteratioin and then next gen bring it out and hype it up all over again and people will be like omg its gears again lol



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Kantor said:
I disagree with Uncharted stopping after three iterations.

Look at R&C. EIGHT games. EIGHT! With that sort of universe, you can really move onto anything, and if you're running out of ideas, you can always say "HE WASN'T DEAD JUST ON A METEOR" and everything's fine.

Gears, yes. Alien invasions have to end, and COG was formed to protect the Earth. That can't go on very long. But Uncharted has an endless supply of mythological artifacts to choose from. Thousands of years of history from dozens of different cultures. And then there's how he actually met Eddy Raja, which Eye of Indra annoyingly didn't explain.

I'm pretty sure they are not aliens. They have lived underground forever, and they just started attacking. So they have to all be wiped out. That can go on forever



dsister44 said:
Kantor said:
I disagree with Uncharted stopping after three iterations.

Look at R&C. EIGHT games. EIGHT! With that sort of universe, you can really move onto anything, and if you're running out of ideas, you can always say "HE WASN'T DEAD JUST ON A METEOR" and everything's fine.

Gears, yes. Alien invasions have to end, and COG was formed to protect the Earth. That can't go on very long. But Uncharted has an endless supply of mythological artifacts to choose from. Thousands of years of history from dozens of different cultures. And then there's how he actually met Eddy Raja, which Eye of Indra annoyingly didn't explain.

I'm pretty sure they are not aliens. They have lived underground forever, and they just started attacking. So they have to all be wiped out. That can go on forever

How long can you have a game series that revolves around killing one other race? It would get stale.



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Wii_Master said:
Carl2291 said:
Wii_Master said:
I agree that U2 was a very good game but it doesn't deserve GOTY. NSMBWii does.
NSMBWii brought a lot more new things than U2 did.

OT:

Agreed with twesterm that Uncharted series should and probably will stop after the third iteration. Gears shouldn't go any further than 2 iterations.

1. Name all the things NSMB Wii has done, that haven't been done before.

2. You will soon stop saying U2 doesn't deserve GotY when you see 90% of sites give it the GotY award.

3. Actually play Gears 2.

1. 4 Player - Do i need to say more? Really...Come on for the first time.

2. Agreed with you on that point because even though I want NSMBWii to come as GOTy on many sites U2 will because most of the sites are bised against wii..and thats not to say U2 was a great game (i personally loved it and hope for more (my friends ps3)) but for me NSMBWii deserves it more..

3. IAgreed on that because I have only played Gears for about 3 hours and its a great game and it doesn't really have much room for improvement so if it keeps on going then in my opinion it might start to feel a little old so instead why not stop making gears after 2nd iteratioin and then next gen bring it out and hype it up all over again and people will be like omg its gears again lol

1) LBP?

2) Opinions are opinions.

3) That's what they're doing, most probably.



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