most.... dont look at your self and think most are the same. Most sure as hell aint the same as you. game were available from day one. any one on minimum wage can affored a PS3, only bums cant. many care about BR most will own a hdtv, 1080p is not needed omn smaller tvs. LOL you think they came up with it in a month.... ike they made home in a few months lol. millions already did spend $600 hell many spent $800! cant wont... thast just you.

Time magazine, Monday, Oct. 30, 2000 "Even before this Thursday's official launch, Sony has lost goodwill, not to mention sales, for PlayStation2 with its glitchy product rollout. The company's recent announcement that it was cutting the number of PS2s available on launch day by 50% was a cruel blow to parents who had promised Junior one of the first units. And it is a headache for the 20,000 retailers selling PS2s--many of which began taking orders six months ago. The stores are bracing for hordes of irate customers."There will be people lined up in front of the doors," sighs Dan DeMatteo, president of Babbage's Etc., the nation's largest specialty video-games retailer. Babbage's has prepaid orders from five times as many customers as it will have units for this week. Sony won't explain what went wrong. Sony Computer Entertainment president Kazuo Hirai will say only that PlayStation2 is a "very complex machine that requires a lot of components." But the guessing in Japan is that the company botched the production of graphics chips. No modem is included with PS2, which puts it behind Sega's Internet-ready Dreamcast. But PS2 does have one feature parents will appreciate: it is backward compatible, meaning it can play the original PlayStation's 800 existing games. But many of the most eagerly anticipated titles, like Metal Gear Solid 2 and the Bouncer, won't be available until spring at the earliest. The early word on the playing experience--outside of Sony's launch party--is not particularly enthusiastic. "There is nothing on the PS2 that I've seen that gave me that jaw-dropping feeling I got with the Sega Dreamcast last year," says Dan Clark, 29, CEO of a New Hampshire credit union and an active gamer. Madden NFL 2001 is good, he says, but no better than games currently available on Dreamcast. Part of the reason for the underwhelming array of games, gamemakers say, is that PS2 is hard to program for. "The PS2 is definitely more powerful than Dreamcast," says John Carmack, the multimillionaire, ponytailed master gamer behind legendary shooters like Doom and Quake. "But it's less convenient to extract performance from it." "The PlayStation2 doesn't live up to Sony's hype," says Carmack. "It's just a next-generation machine, and they were acting like they'd invented the steam engine." But the biggest prize of all lies in turning gaming consoles into broad-ranging entertainment centers. Sony acknowledges this future by calling PS2 not a game console but a "computer entertainment system." And Sony, with its wealth of consumer-electronics devices and enormous movie and music businesses, may have the most to gain by branching out. Count on it to use PlayStation2 in the future as a platform for an array of synergistic nongaming applications, from editing digital movies made on Sony camcorders to downloading Sony-brand music and music videos. "PlayStation2 seems to be no more than a DVD player that can play games," grumbles Mike Roberts, an 18-year-old gamer from Missouri who says he won't be buying a PS2. "It should be the other way around." Not to mention DFCI and certain marketing groups labled the gamecube a winner so forth and so on. I remember it like it was yesterday and it is so striking that the negativity around the PS3 is so similar to what was around the PS2 when it first launched. Check out the john carmack comments..... sounds familiar doesn't it.

Instead of reading the cut down summary maybe you should actually read what he said.... he does have a few good points.

dude people are to ignorant to read and think for them selfs. they prefer to be spoon fed no matte rif its BS or not.

The Wii is selling far faster than the PS3, so even if they arn't "most" gamers they are at least the majority. -You know what he meant about games -How old are you and have you ever worked minimum wage while supporting yourself? -But most don't (see above) -True, but I fail to see how this negates the 360 or cripples the Wii -When did he say anything about home? You still have yet to tackle the big issue, why spend $600 when there is a cheaper console on the market that practically the same?

sieanr the PS3 is still an option because everyone and their moma know that thier librariers are going to head in seperate directions soon. People still talk as if a console should be measured by multiplatform ports. I understand this talk about streaming textures.... Has anyone else noticed the dancing textures in GoW? I was wondering about that but now it makes sense. I am guessing he talks about this because insomniac is using epics engine for ratchet and clank.

If you can't afford it there's no need to bash it. Look at all the stupid things that have been said about the PS3. If i were angry cause it costs too much, i'd juts not buy it... Maybe next time i should start bashing Ferrari cause i can't afford a $500 000 car. 3rd party sales for the Wii are not very good, maybe you should think about that too. 75% of the best games exclusive to the Wii, sorry but this is just impossible. Also, the PS3 isn't overpriced, it's expensive, those 2 words have different meanings and it has some good games out and lots coming soon, specially in 1 year.

I don't know what world you live in, but people on minimum wage cannot afford this system. US minimum wage is $5.15. I will use $8 in my calculations to be generous. $600/$8 = 75 hours of work to buy a PS3. I did not remove any taxes from the wage so this person must work more than two 40 hour work weeks just to purchase the system with no games. Do you think this same person has an HDTV in their 5000 square foot home on the beach?

This kid is easily becoming my favourite poster.

And me. Although I could buy one now ($1500) if I wanted - its still a WASTE of money. My HDTV doesn't play PS3 well (no 1080p) - the 360 would run a lot better. I barely buy DVD's - and couldn't care less about BluRay (I care about content/price much more than quality). Bums? That's a bit harsh... Im sure there are lots of students and other people out there who would struggle to come up with the cash.