If you really think that the wii has trouble rendering 7 or 8 goombas at a time, or can't "process" having more somewhere in the level waiting for you, I'm guessing you don't really know how computer specs work either. The wii isn't a beast by any stretch of the imagination, but come on, look at the game!

That is not the pinnacle of what the wii can handle! Do you think those koopa troopers are more complex than the enemies in the conduit? Really? You think those teeter totter physics are more intense than those of Boom blox? Or is it the combination of the teeter totter physics with the koopa troopa, and keeping track of which direction those coins are moving that is really pushing it?

I have to agree with Vagabond on this one. NSMBWii maxing out the Wii is utter bullshit. The game is a marvel, but I can't buy that it is more taxing than the absolute chaos of 12 person Mario Kart, or 4 player Brawl. Those games have the craziest shit happening at any, and every moment. NSMBWii is comparatively very tame and predictable.

Are you saying the Nes and Snes didn't had shovelware??????

The turtles do dance to the beat at some points so I'm sure that takes some additional resources. Maybe if the turtles didn't dance it could have supported wii speak and online play.

The best explanation I can think of is they looked at it in terms of network latency. The Wii couldn't handle all of that and keep an acceptably low ping under most circumstances. Some games handle some slow down better than others, and NSMBWii does require twitch reflexes on occasion.

The problem is you are both assuming chaotic=greater system use. Smash Bros Melee is more chaotic than Rogue Leader, but the latter got the highest polygon count of a GC launch game. That's just one example off the top of my head.

Those screens posted to NOT give hard numbers. They don't tell us which game has more polygons in the RAM, or more textures, shading, and and many things that cannot be seen by screenshots.

I'm going to leave this topic with the same words I leave people that tell me to repent because Jesus is coming soon.

You keep thinking that, I'm going back to reality.

Asking for proof and hard numbers is the same as fanatical religion? You really don't know how games and specs work.

Are you seriously trying to argue that NSMBWii is more detailed than Brawl? Seriously?

And yes, more chaotic does require more out of the system. There are more calculations happening simultaneously. The more it has to calculate, the more the system resources will be used. Set items to very high, and bombs only. The number of explosions, damage, knock back, and general need to draw what is going on will take more out of the Wii than a one on one fight with no items at all.

Justifiable criticism would be fine, however, this podcast does not even come close to being justifiable.