That last web page he links states OtherOS WON'T be removed from units having it. The news was actually a rumour never confirmed and now officially denied, it seems. OOPS!

OtherOS will not be removed from “phat” PS3’s

PS3 Hacks , 03.03.2010

Remember the rumor a few days ago that Sony may remove the OtherOS feature on non-slim PS3’s in future firmware update? Well Geoff Levand, PS3-Linux maintainer, has gotten confirmation from SCE that the feature will NOT be removed in future firmware updates, and Sony will continue to support it.

To quote (read bolded statement):

Hi All,

On 02/26/2010 04:30 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:58 -0700, geoffrey.levand at am.sony.com wrote:
>> The feature of “Install Other OS” was removed from the new
>> “Slim” PS3 model to focus on delivering games and other
>> entertainment content.
>>
>> Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue
>> the support for previously sold models that have the
>> “Install Other OS” feature and that this feature will
>> not be disabled in future firmware releases.
>
> Although it’s disappointing that Sony have removed the feature from new
> models, It’s good to have this public assurance from Sony that at least
> the feature won’t be removed from older models which are already
> working.

Please understand that in my position as PS3-Linux maintainer
I can really only provide users with technical support for
Linux and the LV1 hcall interface.

The text above was provided to me by SCE management. If
you have any questions regarding it or any other feature
of the PS3 please contact the Playstation Customer Support
in your country. Using Playstation Customer Support will
insure your inquiry is processed through the correct
channels within SCE.

-Geoff

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Plus the mindshare was more about the gaming press than the mainstream. In some articles he discusses how people who don't play today's games would play older Zelda games. This is apparently what Nintendo has been going for since Wind Waker had mediocre sales in Japan. And Japan sales does matter, since the NSMB sales versus Galaxy (5 million to 1 million) inspired NSMBWii.

Oh I agree that Japanese sales matter, but it's not exactly clear how Nintendo is supposed to restrengthen the brand in that region. Spirit Tracks takes enormous - enormous - leaps in the right direction in making Zelda a more arcadey experience, albeit with heavy puzzle elements rather than actiony ones, but that has not sparked greater interest in the games again.

I actually share his expectation of an extreme series reboot (in his case it may be more of a hope) and I also expect that, if they pull it off, it will be the biggest game in the franchise's history, but I do not acknowledge the idea that the series has become less relevant or interesting or genuine over time.

I don't think he means the series itself as much as the games in the series.

You mean that he means Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass, I assume.

No, he means all the games since Wind Waker. The sales were good overseas, but not mainstream, and of course the Japanese sales.

In that place, the problem goes back further than that - to Majora's Mask, which sold less than Wind Waker in every region. Phantom Hourglass, I would assume, would be seen as bucking this trend, since it's only a hundred thousand units or so underneath Link to the Past.

Regardless, I suppose that when I am honenst with myself, my bigger concern is with his insistence that Zelda games have become less relevant and more gimmicky over time. It's hard for games to totally redefine design paradigms every generation, but I think they've actually gone a long way toward that with Phantom Hourglass....

I say it is. The more I think about Natals gaming applications the more im drawn to the true value of Natal is not that its a controller or that its different to the Wii or PS3s versions of the controller but the potential to disrupt the normal business practices of the market. Nintendo created the modern closed box console ideal, Sony introduces a razor/blades mentality to take over a market which had similar offerings by taking a hit on initial sales but reaping the reward long term and finally I believe Natal changes things up again by introducing an OEM mentality where the added value of Natal is in bundling the entire console and interface into completely new products.

The value of Natal is as a hands free generic interface which is useful for televisions and other media watching as well as accessing additional content outside of the typical broadcast model like for instance internet TV and media stored at home. The disruption is against the typical TV remote control which has become overcomplicated with time and most people cannot figure out how to use it or the features of their TV. They know what they want, they can say what they want to watch but many cannot easily perform the actions to do it efficiently. This is where Natal comes in, its a way to both make controlling the TV easier and freeing people from the bonds of being forced to hold a remote control. People only have two hands and technology which frees them of their burdens and provides addition options whilst doing so can be very compelling.

The model as I see it is this; the person buys the interface by buying the TV which has Natal built in and they get the Xbox 360 automatically as the one package. This isn't disruption of the market in the Wii sense, its more along the lines of how Sony won with the PS1 its a change in business practices. The idea is to get as many Xbox 360s with Natal emplaced around the world and then afterwards figure out how best to sell software. The Natal idea is to disrupt the typical TV/human interface and in doing so leverage that as an advantage in the console space. The reason why Xbox Live still costs is that Microsoft needs a carrot for TV manufacturers whom are struggling with low margins on long term sale products to give them a great financial incentive to get on board.

Alby_da_Wolf said: Rhonin the wizard said: PS3 Launch Buyers are World’s Biggest Suckers Just imagine how it must feel for the PS3 launch buyer. First, they shelled out $500 to $600 for an amusement machine… that had no games. And what purpose is there to buy the PS3 at launch? Resistance? Hah. Heavely Sword? LOL. Was it so the Sony fan could experience the glory that is Lair? Within a few years, the PS3 early adopter had to painfully watch the price absolutely collapse by 50%. For each year they would have waited, they could have saved $100. If they waited only a few years, they could have gotten the Slim model. But there was one good moment for the PS3 Early Adopter where it came that the PS2 playback feature was removed in future PS3 models putting a premium on the launch units. But what does that matter when these early PS3 units are constantly breaking down? Now comes the Epic Fail: The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. Oh no! Someone might run unauthorized code on an obsolete model that has been out of retail for quite a while. The horrors! Why does something like removing Linux from PS3 bother people? After all, what does this have to do with gaming? Gamers tend to be pack rats and see their games and consoles as things eternal. This is why game consoles breaking down easily is a big problem to them. And the idea that features are being removed is ridiculous. In a way, this is stabbing the game collector in that a hardware product, already in its grave, still is being manipulated by the company years after. Imagine if Sony made it so PS2 backwards compatibility was disabled forcing people to buy the PS2 games off of PSN. Or imagine if Sony decided to ‘patch’ the PS3 to remove other features once the PS4 rolls around so you cannot use your PS3. It used to be believed that once a hardware product was in your hands, that is what it was. You do not expect the features of the hardware product to be removed or to change. But now, this graveyard hardware is beginning to be ‘patched’ for the worse. Why on Earth would anyone want to collect Sony consoles now? I would feel sorry for the PS3 early adopters paying over half a grand for a video game console if they didn’t have earlier warning they were being played… What!? Do you want more Epic Fail, reader? Here you go. Just go TO THIS LINK and you will find Epic Fail stacked on top of this Epic Fail.     That last web page he links states OtherOS WON'T be removed from units having it. The news was actually a rumour never confirmed and now officially denied, it seems. OOPS!   OtherOS will not be removed from “phat” PS3’s PS3 Hacks , 03.03.2010 Remember the rumor a few days ago that Sony may remove the OtherOS feature on non-slim PS3’s in future firmware update? Well Geoff Levand, PS3-Linux maintainer, has gotten confirmation from SCE that the feature will NOT be removed in future firmware updates, and Sony will continue to support it. To quote (read bolded statement): Hi All, On 02/26/2010 04:30 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:58 -0700, geoffrey.levand at am.sony.com wrote: >> The feature of “Install Other OS” was removed from the new >> “Slim” PS3 model to focus on delivering games and other >> entertainment content. >> >> Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue >> the support for previously sold models that have the >> “Install Other OS” feature and that this feature will >> not be disabled in future firmware releases. > > Although it’s disappointing that Sony have removed the feature from new > models, It’s good to have this public assurance from Sony that at least > the feature won’t be removed from older models which are already > working. Please understand that in my position as PS3-Linux maintainer I can really only provide users with technical support for Linux and the LV1 hcall interface. The text above was provided to me by SCE management. If you have any questions regarding it or any other feature of the PS3 please contact the Playstation Customer Support in your country. Using Playstation Customer Support will insure your inquiry is processed through the correct channels within SCE. -Geoff So everyone can take a breather who thought that geohot’s exploit was going to be patched Your Ad Here Posted by Pirate @ 9:48 pm Tags: geohot, otheros, PS3 Hacks, PS3Hax, sce, sony | Discuss in Forums (10)

Nope its confirmed

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7619

This really sucks for those using that feature (unless Sony changes its mind another time).

I wonder why Malstrom linked a page that temporarily denied it...