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Its like the 80's all over again.



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Squilliam said:
Untamoi said:
Squilliam said:
If you want 3D, get a PC and go Nvidias next generation GPU architecture. What Sony can produce shoe horned onto a fixed system will be nothing near the level Nvidia can give you. what I don't get is why people would profess to love the concept of Sony's 3D when Nvidia has it right now and probably implements it better too.

Most people want 3D on living room and without even connecting PC to TV. Nvidias 3D is only going to be used with gaming but not with movies. 3D should work straight from DVD or Blu Ray without PC or it will never be popular.

You know the glasses for PC would also work for a TV as well...

Why does Sony scare you so? Do you know that other companies are making 3D Tv's, you don't have to fear them so.



Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Ive said this before...and ill do it again. I have a 3D ready TV...67 inch 3D Tv. And I have the Nvidia Vision glasses and have played countless games in 3D on my PC.

There is no way that Sony will try and depend on this tech. Its not as good as people think... Only hopeless fanboys who have never tried 3D gaming are saying this is Sonys future.

If sony makes this available for some ps3 games (4-5 games tops will be able to do this on the PS3)...cool for them and PS3 gamers that have never tried 3D gaming, but there is nothing new in this and this tech has been around for a long time. Sony pushing this would be like nintendo pushing cartriges again.

3-D gaming is the future. I want it to be!

OT: I dont think investments just for a 3-D ready TV can be compared with the huge investments needed for high-end home consoles. Stupid article. Maybe the market ain't mature for 3-D ready TV's, but it sure won't cost Sony much.


Try it before you commit. Its great and all...but a shitty game in 3D is still a shitty game ;) Good games are still the future



I don't know what PS3 mistakes you're talking of (all the features it has would have had to be implemented somewhere down the line and Sony chose do to so sooner rather than later, and I'm sure they were well aware of the consequences of the choices they made), but here's a good 3 page read on what's coming: http://www.techradar.com/news/television/is-3d-television-just-a-great-big-swizz--657408

And here, Panasonic states that 3D TVs will be affordable: http://www.techradar.com/blogs/article/best-of-ceatec-2009-the-future-of-tv--641508

And if that wasn't enough: http://www.techradar.com/blogs/article/why-games-will-lead-3d-tech-into-our-homes-629869 A Cell powered 3D TV = gaming delight.



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Wait didn't Blu Ray win the HD format war? Isn't the PS3 also helping to push the sale of HDTV's and the competition (XBOX) to also produce HD games and thus pushing more sales of HDTV's? The PS3 has created such a demand in markets that Sony has it's hand in that it has to be looked at holistically rather than "oh the PS3 failed cuz it's third, Sony sucks." Doesn't Sony have a stake in both Blu Ray royalties/hardware sales as well as HDTV production? If you think all sony does is fail you are a blinded fan boy. Sony is always in the forefront of technology innovation and sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't but more often then not it pays of for sony seeing as the company hadn't had a quarterly loss in over a decade until the recent recession began.

Nintendo's only worry is gaming. That's all it does. It has to profit from gaming. It's a gaming company.
Microsoft's worry is protecting it's OS marketshare from possible competition and increasing it's XBOX marketshare is a way to do this and profit is it's second priority. Now that it has a large market share it is focusing more on profit but don't think for one second MS will go the way of Nintendo's gamecube and be happy losing marketshare to remain profitable. That will never be their strategy.
Sony has made it clear that creating market demand for all of it's electronic markets is it's priority. It's not simply just to increase marketshare or make a profit from gaming alone. Sony has it's hand in a lot of electronics and they look at the big picture. PS3 has hurt them from a narrow view point but when you look at it it has boosted a lot of other areas that Sony has interest in. So simply lining up sales numbers does not determine the success of each individual company. They all have different goals.



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It's called following the market. They obviously feel there are enough 3D films and potential future demand to move on this. 2D TV won't be going anywhere initially, but they clearly want to support seeing films you watched in 3D in the cinema in 3D at home - such as Avatar for example.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

sorry to butt in being new to the forums and all, but 3d tvs arent that new
its not something that has just being started, 3d tvs are already being introduced to the market and other companies like philips are working on 3d tvs that dont require glasses.

i have a link that is over a year old but it's in portuguese, however if anyone can read it and is interested: http://www.biovolts.com/seccao/gadgets/outros/520-tv-3d-da-philips-nao-necessita-de-oculos

anyways, i think a couple of years from now it's very likely that 3d tvs start to become more common.

a few days ago i was watching a footbal (soccer) game with some friends and i saw a 3d camera, that was so cool :)



disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
disolitude said:
Ive said this before...and ill do it again. I have a 3D ready TV...67 inch 3D Tv. And I have the Nvidia Vision glasses and have played countless games in 3D on my PC.

There is no way that Sony will try and depend on this tech. Its not as good as people think... Only hopeless fanboys who have never tried 3D gaming are saying this is Sonys future.

If sony makes this available for some ps3 games (4-5 games tops will be able to do this on the PS3)...cool for them and PS3 gamers that have never tried 3D gaming, but there is nothing new in this and this tech has been around for a long time. Sony pushing this would be like nintendo pushing cartriges again.

3-D gaming is the future. I want it to be!

OT: I dont think investments just for a 3-D ready TV can be compared with the huge investments needed for high-end home consoles. Stupid article. Maybe the market ain't mature for 3-D ready TV's, but it sure won't cost Sony much.


Try it before you commit. Its great and all...but a shitty game in 3D is still a shitty game ;) Good games are still the future

A shitty natal game is still a shitty game as is a shitty motion control game is still a shitty game as is a shitty touch control game is still a shitty game etc...

Whose to say 3D can't be as immersive as natal or motion control? I do think think its wayyyy to early for this right now, perhaps next gen, but I think 3D has a lot to offer gaming.

Surely theres a difference between the games you listed and ones that will be specifically optimized for 3D? (serious question)



Wow Sony are already hellbent on getting rid of Bluray, thats a turnup for the books!



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I think some of you don't understand how companies like Sony work.

Sony doesn't expect every of their products will sell millions. Some of their products are 'high end' products like the PSP Go or those 3D TV. High wages people can and will buy them, but that's not their main purpose. Sony KNOWS they won't profit from selling 3D TVs NOW. By doing so now, they will be seen as a leader in that sector LATER though.

The goal is not so much to sell millions here but to improve the way they're perceived as a company. Releasing such products show they're leaders in inovation. That in turn contributes selling their other products.