I urge you, look at a list of the most popular games of all time in Japan. Look at the top 10 best selling.

I would argue that none of these games have very strong stories. You see the likes of Mario, Pokemon, and Brain Training, three games with stories that aren't that extensive or deep. Similarly, look at the best selling games of all time worldwide. You'll see the same thing. And the best part is that the highest selling RPG series in Japan has probably one of the weakest stories. And they don't care. Nobody does.

(...Wow im seeing both ends are wrong on this thread >.>; ... )

g-value, explain to me why japan likes mario , Wii sports, Nintendogs, pokemon, crash bandicoot , heck even ratchet and clank ? does these games have a deep storyline?

no.

ok first of mario wasnt western made. second i was giving off my opinion on what games I think are classic. Many will have there own opinions on what should be classics even you

It doesn't matter. I was showing that regardless of where the game is made, you don't need a great story to be remembered. You claimed that western games will never be classics because they lack good storylines. I showed you an example of a Japanese made game with a minor story that's remembered as one of the most important and acclaimed games of all time, and is still enjoyable to this day.

A great story has very little to do with it, since few games have great stories anyways.

I'm glad they don't like western games. It forces Sony and other publishers to develop sweet games like Demon's Souls or other JRPG's that otherwise wouldn't be made if Japan bought western games. Because then they would just invest in another western game instead.

Also for those of you talking about classics, the western gaming industry is a lot younger than the japanese gaming industry. When Nintendo was first starting, and Sega, and Sony they are all Japanese companies. When FF, Mario, Sonic, Metal Gear, Zelda were all making their names there wasn't much of a western industry. Shit even the football games back then were Japan(tecmo bowl). Fucking football!!! Taking the last 15 years into account and I bet the West has just as many if not many more classics than Japan. Blizzard has made some classics (Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft), the Sims are classic, Halo is classic, Golden Eye 007 is classic, God of War I'd say is a classic, COD4 will be classic, and there are many others. They are there, just the founding father characters of the video game industry(mostly NES titles) are all japanese. And that can never be changed, but it doesn't mean that Japan is now nor will forever be the only place to make classic games. 

I'm not saying that the Japanese people don't enjoys games for gameplay alone. What I'm saying is that look at the type of game Japanese developers are making all the time. Its rpgs. You know why? Because the japanese people want those type of games. If they didn't, then you would see more games like Mario coming out of japan. Also, with pokemon, it because the anime is so damn popular.

@MontanaHatchet

DQ's gameplay isn't anything to talk about either. Actually, other then DQ8, alot of the other DQ games actually have good storylines. I loved DQ7's storyline.

For western games, yes, very few of their games actually have good storylines. For japanese games, I can name plenty of them that have great storylines.

I'm sure you can. But it doesn't matter, since this is about what sells well, and most of the best selling games of all time in Japan have fairly barebones stories.

I'll just stop this debate here, since I don't see it going anywhere. But I think you get the point.

Here we go again, Wada trying to fit in with Western culture...

I just wanna tell him "All of your 360 RPGs failed in the West, dude. It's a two way street!"

Japanese aren't the only ones who discriminate.

ah , damn i've had it with this thread. so heres goes me generalizing everything.

Western Classics , do they sell well in the west ? , nope, why? because most westerners don't care about classics, all they want is quick fun cheesy games.

Eastern Classics , do they sell well in the east? , yes, Why? because most easterns like games that don't revolve around chaotic mindless battles and are more open minded.