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jarrod on 01 December 2009
-Newcloud- said:
wii sports sold well i wonder why?? *cough*bundles*cough*

people only but nintendo products for some reason... if you want big budget games get a ps3 or 360

People only buy Nintendo products becuase they're the only one putting any effort in.  On the off chance a 3rd party does put some effort behind a game or series (ex: Guitar Hero, Monster Hunter, Tiger Woods, etc) the games sell better than any other console.

If developers made big budget Wii games, the audience would buy them.



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bardicverse on 01 December 2009

-Newcloud- said:

if you want big budget games that play and handle well, get a PC

 

Fixed for accuracy.



bardicverse on 01 December 2009
kitler53 said:
metroid prime 3, metroid prime trilogy, punch out, the conduit, madworld, muramasa, no more heros, okami, ect and so forth. plenty of good "hardcore" games and none of them were particularly successful sales wise.

maybe, just maybe, the reason wii fit can blow past 20M with ease and great game like metroid struggled to make 1.5 is that the audience just isn't there. you can make a game for the wii as "bigger" and "badder" as you want but my mother (a wii owner) is still unlikely to buy it.

I cannot diagree more about No More Heroes being a "good game". What about Resident Evil 4, sold very well. Punchout isn't really hardcore, hell it really isn't much beyond casual.



jarrod on 01 December 2009

MadWorld outsold Godhand. Muramasa is Vanillaware's 2nd best selling game ever. NMH actually is Grasshopper's best selling game ever. Okami bombed on PS2, but the Wii version actually met it's targets for the port. All that list really proves is niche hardcore games and cheap ports do okay on Wii, about as well or slightly better than they did on PS2 even comparably.

And Punch-Out was a HUGE success considering it's basically a NES remake, it's over 500k in America alone. Prime 3 outsold Prime 2, and is the 5th best selling game in the entire Metroid series (ahead of even Super Metroid). Both were easily 'successful'.



routsounmanman on 01 December 2009

Uncharted and Little Big Planet were saved by being bundled.



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kitler53 on 01 December 2009
bardicverse said:
kitler53 said:
metroid prime 3, metroid prime trilogy, punch out, the conduit, madworld, muramasa, no more heros, okami, ect and so forth. plenty of good "hardcore" games and none of them were particularly successful sales wise.

maybe, just maybe, the reason wii fit can blow past 20M with ease and great game like metroid struggled to make 1.5 is that the audience just isn't there. you can make a game for the wii as "bigger" and "badder" as you want but my mother (a wii owner) is still unlikely to buy it.

I cannot diagree more about No More Heroes being a "good game". What about Resident Evil 4, sold very well. Punchout isn't really hardcore, hell it really isn't much beyond casual.

well we can agree to disagree about no more heros.  and whatever about punchout's hardcore status.  was punchout small?  or recicled?  or terrible?  or made in a short time frame?  or with a constrained budget?  i'd say no an the OP seems to suggest that if a 3rd party will have instant success making a game without those.  i think not.



BMaker11 on 01 December 2009
maykissthebride said:

That´s a lie

You could blame it on the "Wii" brand? Just a little. Wii music had Wii on the name and sold poorly, because it was a sad excuse for a game.

Sold 2.70M



BMaker11 on 01 December 2009
kitler53 said:
metroid prime 3, metroid prime trilogy, punch out, the conduit, madworld, muramasa, no more heros, okami, ect and so forth. plenty of good "hardcore" games and none of them were particularly successful sales wise.

maybe, just maybe, the reason wii fit can blow past 20M with ease and great game like metroid struggled to make 1.5 is that the audience just isn't there. you can make a game for the wii as "bigger" and "badder" as you want but my mother (a wii owner) is still unlikely to buy it.

Either this is extreme sarcasm making fun of things such as surveys saying the Wii audience is made up of kids, girls, and soccer moms.......or it's the complete opposite and is a realization of the status of the what "hardcore" games generally sell like on the Wii without cherrypicking

Cherrypicking ex. "What about Resident Evil 4?"



KungKras on 01 December 2009
-Newcloud- said:
wii sports sold well i wonder why?? *cough*bundles*cough*

people only but nintendo products for some reason... if you want big budget games get a ps3 or 360

I already own a 360, but I still see that comment as an insult to me as a custoumer. Why can't I have a console that has everything like the Super Nintendo had? Why do I have to buy two consoles to get a comlete experience? I have a certain console, just like 57 million other people. Why would you force all those people to get another console. It doesn't make sense. If I had good shooters on the N64 I deserve to have good shooters on the Wii, it's as simple as that.

   Many people can't afford two consoles. Ever since the 16-bit generation I have been forced to chose only one half of the console experience, it's not fair, and now that money or installed base isn't an excuse for third parties any more, I feel insulted by them. I want a complete console again with a complete experience. I don't want to have to spend money on two systems (3 if you count my PC)



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jarrod on 01 December 2009

Punchout looks to be pretty small budget honestly. I can't imagine it was in development for more than a year, and it has a pretty small staff.