noname2200 said:

 Which for a Nintendo flagship holiday title qualifies as "shit." Ask Iwata...

Wooooaaahhhh. Wii Music is flagship now?

so you are more interested in nintendo games. It seems to me that nintendo fans think/feel nintendo games are the best of the best, and pretty much every third party is mediocre to or average at best. Almost as if no one can make a game as well as nintendo. Which is why we get a lot of "third parties hate the wii" type threads, when its really nintendo fans hate third parties.

IMHO of course. I don't mean to offend anyone, but thats what it seems like to me.

To be honest, I suspect it's far too late by now. I have a theory that for games in a genre to sell well, the soil first has to be fertilized by a big-name game. Basically, games like Saint's Row and that one superhero-cop sandbox game would not have sold nearly as well if people did not first flock to the system by the promise of Grand Theft Auto IV. And it's easier to sell an FPS if a Halo has paved the way for you first.

By now though, the pattern is set. If I want games in certain genres, I don't buy a Wii. Why would I? All the big games in that genre are somewhere else! The only possible way to change this is for Nintendo to: 1) release a great game in a genre the Wii is weak in (think FPS), and 2) convince third-parties to release big-budget games in the same genre shortly therafter to sustain the momentum.

In other words, fat chance.

Blizzard games are always the main dish to me, so I too try to chose a console to best compliment my PC. And that console has always been Nintendo or Sega consoles.

Why I don't find the PS1 and PS2 complete is because all their games are third party, even their firts party games all feel Third party-ish. Racing games all look the same without anything to differentiate them, the platformers were all croc-clones although I love Spyro. I just didn't find those consoles appealing for anything else than JRPGs and games with mainstream content like a Dunald duck game I wanted when I was a kid but couldn't have because it was on PS2, same with kingdom hearts, I thought "A disney game, awesome, I want this" Little did I know that disney games were only common on Nintendo playforms in the SNES days. the Playstations had some great series from the NES/SNES days too. This is why I think that the only great contribution Sony made to gaming was to force me to chose between two consoles, or buy two to get a complete console gaming experience.

You could argue that the Playstations had very complete libraries when it came to genres, but I'm talking about how complete a library is when it comes to experiences. The playstations had nothing that -felt- like Zelda or Sonic. They did not have the Nintendo experience, but managed to somewhat emulate the Sega experience. They had the mainstream games, and nothing else that interrested me.

Maybe it's just me, everyone around me just goes on and on about how good the Playstations were. I never saw the point with them, though. I also can't stand ketchup, wich is another thing I seem to disagree with the majority about.

Wooooaaahhhh. Wii Music is flagship now?