I say so.

And bdbdbd, could you edit out a post you have a few replies up. It's breaking the table.

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Yes I think third parties would go and port almost every major game. Activision for example is porting games right now without the console being HD. Can you imagine how many titles they would port if they didn't have to downgrade every title? During the GameCube era UbiSoft was one of Nintendo's stronger third party supporters, if the Wii was HD you'd see every UbiSoft title headed the Wii's way. Or lets talk about LucasArts their big proponent last generation was the lack of online, this generation they've ported big titles like "The Force Unleashed" to the Wii, can you imagine what they would do if the Wii was HD?

In the end I think many publishers and developers would love to see their products on the Wii. But at the moment they have to choose, Wii or HD and that is not a fair choice. So most publishers/developers choose HD. I think if Nintendo plays their cards right and the next console is a Wii HD with competitive graphics to the competition then we will see loads of ports.

Now the real question is, do you want all these ports? Or do you want the origional content developers/publishers are developing for the Wii?

@LordTheNightKnight: Better? There was a table open in the code.

@Joecool: What you said would make sense if Wii had 50% marketshare and were HD. If Wii HD would come out and started out of nothing, nobody would give it support.

TFU was PS2 port.

And for the last part, i would love to see the original content if they'd make some.

The answer is a big NO. Even if nintendo came out with the most powerful system with the best graphics next gen, they would still not bring these games over. I truly believe this. The reason being that people that buy nintendo just don't buy those types of games. If we learn anything from this generation, it is that "hardcore" gamers don't play nintendo games. And if someone doesn't play nintendo games, they won't buy a nintendo system. Period. Therefore not many "hardcore" games will come to nintendo, and the a few that will, will sell modestly to pretty good, but will be considered a flop by the "hardcore", because they will inevitably sell better on the other consoles.

My definition of hardcore gamer is one who plays violent games exclusively and spends hours a day playing online. There are nintendo core gamers, that really love nintendo games (like me :)), but they are different from "hardcore gamers".

Of course, this pattern won't last forever, but I think it will continue next gen too. A nintendo system won't get these games until the "hardcore gamers" move on to the nintendo system, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

You sell to your audience or you fail.

@cliffhanger: There was a survey in the US just recently that showed that about half of HD console owners own Wiis. And that people play primarily Nintendos games with their Wiis. Obviously these people aren't the hardcore gamers you mentioned.

Let's take a hypothetical situation, where Nintendos next system would be the only system on the market next generation and therefore all the 3rd party games would be on the system.
Would the people who you call "hardcore" exit the market completely or buy the next Nintendo system to play the games they want.
Given your assertion, it would be the former, but i'm inclined to believe it's the latter.

If Nintendo priced their console cheaply like they always do we would likely see a 50% market share just as we see now. Infact with more games availible it could be even more successful then it is now. Then again all of the SD games that come to Wii are pretty much exclusive so that might be boosting sales too.

However I'm pretty sure an HD Wii would have sold just as well as the regular Wii does, The games selling the Wii are first party games and that momentum wouldn't have changed if the console was HD!

This is an interesting point: a multiplatform owner is considered "hardcore" when he owns a PS3 or a 360, but then magically becomes "casual" if he owns a Wii as well... but it's still the same person, the same gamer with the same tastes... so something's wrong here...

Many "hardcore" gamers are way more open-minded than what the industry may think, and will simply want to play the best games out there, no matter the console... in that sense, Wii's library is a perfect addition to the HD consoles libraries (which are nearly the same)...

But, Wii can't be the "main" console for many of these "hardcore" gamers, just because of the lack of the most important multiplatform HD games... otherwise, it could have taken the place of the PS2... i really think so... it's mainly due to technical reasons, maybe, but i think the way the industry consider the Nintendo gamers (casuals, women, kids, families, etc) is the main problem... and will still exist, whatever Nintendo does, or not...

@Joecool: As i said, if it had been HD to begin with.
If a Wii HD would come out tomorrow, no dev would be interested in it since it wouldn't have any gamers and it would soon be replaced anyway.

And yes, if had been in HD it likely had sold as it has sold so far.

@68soul: It is. It makes you wonder if someone tries to bullshit people, since the casual/hardcore stuff you see in the internet holds no substance.

I don't know if someone mentionned the PS1 gen, but the nintendo 64 was more powerful, and had better sales than the gamecube. OK, the cartridge scared the developpers, but did they bring support to the N64? I don't think so. Third paries are asking for big money to make big games, that's it. Not power

edit: I consider Rare as a second party at this time.