Well stated Kasz.

To the "Words change and It means something different" crowd... BULLSHIT!

If you're honestly stating that the use of the word gay can be used to mean dumb, stupid and lame with no connection whatsoever to the most misunderstood, hated and discriminated against group in modern times... Grow the hell up.

This exactly. Good example.

Gay is also a good word for stupid  example:

John: Check out my new shoes!

Me: Those are gay

or

When you just died from a noob tube in Modern Warfare 2 "HOLY FUCK THAT'S GAYYY!!!"

Hey, no taking that title away from us atheists. People hate us more =P.

Also 'grow the hell up' doesn't become a convincing argument no matter how many times you say it.

@Kasz. I agree that the origin of the new meaning comes from homophobia, I'm arguing that it is no longer necessarily attached to the original homophobic meaning. When most people say 'that's gay' they are not considering the homosexual meaning at all - the intent is purely that it means 'bad'. 

If people started calling things 'kiwi' (because New Zealand is just too long for an insult =P) I'd initially be offended but over time as the meaning of the word diverged from it meaning New Zealander I wouldn't be offended.

What about gay atheists? I have the world going against me

Well I've been trumped =P

Come to NZ, we don't really hate on either very much =D

It's not an argument. It's a statement. people that think saying "that's gay" is acceptable and in no way related to homophobia need to grow the hell up.

"I'm arguing that it is no longer necessarily attached to the original homophobic meaning" Are you stating that the millions of homophobic people don't use it as an insult then? Or are you saying the two "meanings" of insult can coexist quite well, and we should offer the benefit of doubt that when a person uses gay as an insult they're probably just an immature teenager, as opposed to one of the millions of people that are prejudiced towards gays?

To say you think gay is an acceptable term for an insult is to turn a really blind eye to the fact that gays themselves are still struggling for acceptance.

Oh, don't worry, I'm not hated here, I just wanted to boast my "hateability"

No, I'm stating that many millions more non-homophobic people use it as a general term for something being lame.

You should be able to read the difference between somebody insulting someone for being homosexual and somebody thinking something is lame. The two meanings are simply not the same.

Perhaps its partly because in NZ people in general are fairly accepting of people for who they are (we elected a transexual MP before anybody else afterall =P). Maybe the word still has more stigma attached to it in other parts of the world.


@Zexen. That's good to hear =D

why there are so many gay threads in off-topic forum?
That's gay

Gay used to mean "Happy".

Then the homosexuals stole the word, and Gay meant "Homosexual"

Then another group stole the word, and Gay meant "undesirable"

So, when you say that game "X" is Gay, you are not saying that the game is happy. Nor are you saying the game is about nor targeted twords homosexuals. You are merely saying that the game is "undesirable" because that is the meaning the word Gay is implying. It has nothing to do with Homosexuality at all, just as when Gay meant "happy",  it had nothing to do with Homosexuality.