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jlauro said:
We can hype as many games as we want. Publishers would love it if we hype every game, and I have no regrets about getting hyped for The Conduit. It's a good game, and it had potential to be great. It's like they slaked off after they had a publisher and didn't go back and polish off earlier levels, but overall it's worth it. if for no other reason than lack of decent competition...

For people that like The Conduit a lot and thinks it deserved the hype because it is a lot of fun, and also have reflex... is reflex worth it? Does it have the same fun factor? Generally I prefer bright alien sci-fi to realistic, so that is a plus to The Conduit for me over reflex...

Obviously people who prefer realistic art style will bias toward reflex. However, is it everyone?

The Conduit was primarily hyped because of it's control customization, visuals, and online multiplayer. Modern Warfare is better on those three aspects compared to The Conduit.



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Chrizum said:
jlauro said:
We can hype as many games as we want. Publishers would love it if we hype every game, and I have no regrets about getting hyped for The Conduit. It's a good game, and it had potential to be great. It's like they slaked off after they had a publisher and didn't go back and polish off earlier levels, but overall it's worth it. if for no other reason than lack of decent competition...

For people that like The Conduit a lot and thinks it deserved the hype because it is a lot of fun, and also have reflex... is reflex worth it? Does it have the same fun factor? Generally I prefer bright alien sci-fi to realistic, so that is a plus to The Conduit for me over reflex...

Obviously people who prefer realistic art style will bias toward reflex. However, is it everyone?

The Conduit was primarily hyped because of it's control customization, visuals, and online multiplayer. Modern Warfare is better on those three aspects compared to The Conduit.

Well don't forget, The Conduit was also one of the first major Third Party games that showed actual promise and tried to do all the stuff you just stated.  That's why it was hyped.  Modern Warfare might do it better, but The Conduit got hyped because it tried to do it first.  Kind of like Red Steel tried to do Wiimote Swordplay first.



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Fuck FPS. Wii owners should've been hyping stuff like Little King's Story, Muramasa, Tasunoko Vs Capcom, Monster Hunter TRI, Shiren the Wanderer, Arc Rise Fantasia, FFCC Crystal Bearers...



I think Conduit deserved the hype, or rather the developer deserved the hype that went along with it. Small 3rd-party developer taking a risk on Wii and trying to build an engine and enter a genre that was not their comfort zone. It might not have been brilliant, but it was definately a good first Wii game from a developer just starting to produce traditional games and not shovelware.

Reflex is simply a port of a 2yr old game that already has the CoD name to help it sell and is published and developed by experienced developers that are really out to make a lil' extra monies.



Scoobes said:
I think Conduit deserved the hype, or rather the developer deserved the hype that went along with it. Small 3rd-party developer taking a risk on Wii and trying to build an engine and enter a genre that was not their comfort zone. It might not have been brilliant, but it was definately a good first Wii game from a developer just starting to produce traditional games and not shovelware.

Reflex is simply a port of a 2yr old game that already has the CoD name to help it sell and is published and developed by experienced developers that are really out to make a lil' extra monies.

I agree completely with the first paragraph. This industry needs risk-takers and hungry up-and-coming developers.

I do feel sorry for Treyarch, though. They've worked hard on this port and done a damn good job of it, but it seems like everybody is turning their back on them for it. Infinity Ward is pissed that Treyarch is using their IP, Activision is doing piss all to support it after having funded the development (the only screens released are still those horrible alphas, seems more like sabotage than PR), and now even the media are now saying it's worse than CoD: WaW, contrary to the impressions of actual gamers everywhere.

It seems like the only people on Treyarch's side are the dedicated Wii FPS gamers, and everybody else is working against them.



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Scoobes said:
I think Conduit deserved the hype, or rather the developer deserved the hype that went along with it. Small 3rd-party developer taking a risk on Wii and trying to build an engine and enter a genre that was not their comfort zone. It might not have been brilliant, but it was definately a good first Wii game from a developer just starting to produce traditional games and not shovelware.

Reflex is simply a port of a 2yr old game that already has the CoD name to help it sell and is published and developed by experienced developers that are really out to make a lil' extra monies.

Thats why I love HVS. Making good games out of the kindness of their hearts. Very unlike those big bad corporations who are only looking to make a profit.

 

Seriously, people bitch when they don't get it, and then when they do get it, they bitch that its too late. nevermind if it's a good game. If it's really that big of a deal to you that its a port, then dont buy it. But don't come around bitching next time Call of Duty doesn't come to the wii.



axumblade said:
Galaki said:
They didn't even bother advertising MWR, why should you do it for them?

It's really irritating when people say statements like this.

If it's a good game, then it's a good game whether it's advertised or not. IF you only buy games that are advertised then I think you are a pisspoor excuse of a gamer.

Whether or not you want to admit it, advertising sells games.  Especially in the west, it is the primary factor in sales of a game.  While we might know of a games existence because we browse forums and look up upcoming games online, the VAST majority of people don't.  And the vast majority of people buy games based on advertising and word of mouth (which also comes from advertising).

People can't buy a game if they never hear about it.  And games don't sell a million units from their boxart alone.



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cgkc17 said:
Scoobes said:
I think Conduit deserved the hype, or rather the developer deserved the hype that went along with it. Small 3rd-party developer taking a risk on Wii and trying to build an engine and enter a genre that was not their comfort zone. It might not have been brilliant, but it was definately a good first Wii game from a developer just starting to produce traditional games and not shovelware.

Reflex is simply a port of a 2yr old game that already has the CoD name to help it sell and is published and developed by experienced developers that are really out to make a lil' extra monies.

Thats why I love HVS. Making good games out of the kindness of their hearts. Very unlike those big bad corporations who are only looking to make a profit.

 

Seriously, people bitch when they don't get it, and then when they do get it, they bitch that its too late. nevermind if it's a good game. If it's really that big of a deal to you that its a port, then dont buy it. But don't come around bitching next time Call of Duty doesn't come to the wii.

My point was risk takers are needed in the industry. And I'm not bitching it's too late (as I already have CoD 4 on PC and own all of this gens consoles), I'm saying that a port of an old and already popular game doesn't need or deserve hype.