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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
@Kasz. Actually the 'Fuck You' has generally been taken as a personal attack on a particular person who sponsored the bill and was earlier very rude to Arnie.

You mean the guy who treated him just like an apparently "racist" senator attacked Obama?

 

I actually see what they were talking about now (The Fuck you)... i'd really mark that up to coincidence more then anything else.

 

I mean, the margins are just about right.. and it's not like this guy is a master of the english language.

There is almost no chance that it's a coincidence, statistically that is.

Also can we not turn this into a topic about Obama?

Not trying too.  It's just a funny coincidence. You were one of the people who thought that was race based right?


As for statistical coincidences... that's the kind of statement that's used to prove that the bible can tell the future.

 



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If your wondering what i mean by that statistically.

The "1 in 8 billion" number was taken by finding the probability by

26th to the 7th power.


Is it really just as likely a word is going to end in F as it is Z or X?  Etc.

To calculate real odds one would have to count and divide the 220,000 or so words in an English dictonary... and even then you'd have to use probabilities based on how much the words are used.

Additionally it should be noted that things with even less of a chance of hapening... have happened.

It just doesn't add up.  Swartzneggar couldn't pull it off.

Unless someone else is writing his vetos it's impossible.  Even then i'd be shocked if Arnold knew about it.  Once again, he's not the best when it comes to English.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

There is almost no chance that it's a coincidence, statistically that is.

Also can we not turn this into a topic about Obama?

Not trying too.  It's just a funny coincidence. You were one of the people who thought that was race based right?


As for statistical coincidences... that's the kind of statement that's used to prove that the bible can tell the future.

 

It may be the same sort of language, but it's not the same sort of thing.

The problems of prophecy are based around the fact that they always fit at least one of the following categories; likely events, not enough detail, no limit on time, no specified time and a whole lot of different prophecies. You can find something to fit the prophecies (or you can't prove them wrong) because of that.

This is just straight up statistics, what are the chances of those letters turning up in that order. The one in eight billion number isn't actually correct (as you pointed out), though the number will still be very high (ie. worse than one in a million). It would have to take into account how often a letter starts a word and how long a veto normally is.

Lets pretend that there are only 7 letters in the English language. F, U, C, K, Y, O. What are the chances that they will appear in that order (fuck you) on any given seven lines?

If I'm not mistaken (it has been a couple of years since I did stats) it's 1/(7^7). Thats about a 1 in 823000 chance.

 

It simply didn't happen by accident - Arnie put it in there. Maybe you should reconsider your view of his English skills? =P



Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:

There is almost no chance that it's a coincidence, statistically that is.

Also can we not turn this into a topic about Obama?

Not trying too.  It's just a funny coincidence. You were one of the people who thought that was race based right?


As for statistical coincidences... that's the kind of statement that's used to prove that the bible can tell the future.

 

It may be the same sort of language, but it's not the same sort of thing.

The problems of prophecy are based around the fact that they always fit at least one of the following categories; likely events, not enough detail, no limit on time, no specified time and a whole lot of different prophecies. You can find something to fit the prophecies (or you can't prove them wrong) because of that.

This is just straight up statistics, what are the chances of those letters turning up in that order. The one in eight billion number isn't actually correct (as you pointed out), though the number will still be very high (ie. worse than one in a million). It would have to take into account how often a letter starts a word and how long a veto normally is.

Lets pretend that there are only 7 letters in the English language. F, U, C, K, Y, O. What are the chances that they will appear in that order (fuck you) on any given seven lines?

If I'm not mistaken (it has been a couple of years since I did stats) it's 1/(7^7). Thats about a 1 in 823000 chance.

 

It simply didn't happen by accident - Arnie put it in there. Maybe you should reconsider your view of his English skills? =P

Lets say it is one in 8 million just for the hell of it.

 

Over the entire history of the united states.  How many vetos do you think have been used by govoners?

Or statements in general?

 

What over 8 million by a lot?  Which again is why such statistics don't really work.

 

Taken to one specific message... 1 in 8 million makes it sound like it can never be a coincdience...

 

Even when dealing with a sample size well over 8 million.

 



How many of those cases involve a sponsor of the bill personally insulting the governor?


Actually I doubt there have been over 8M vetoes. Afterall, the states has been in existence for ~230 years and has over that time had an average of ~35 states?

That'd mean about 1000 vetoes per year per governor =P



Anyway, I'm dropping this because it all seems rather pointless.



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This is really good stuff!



Tease.

Rath said:
How many of those cases involve a sponsor of the bill personally insulting the governor?


Actually I doubt there have been over 8M vetoes. Afterall, the states has been in existence for ~230 years and has over that time had an average of ~35 states?

That'd mean about 1000 vetoes per year per governor =P



Anyway, I'm dropping this because it all seems rather pointless.

It's not just vetos.  It's just about any other thing.

Either way, these kinds of messages have happened before, usually nonsensible.

As for "personally insulted the govoner"  probably 90+%.

I mean you don't veto the bills of people who like you.



Kasz216 said:

It just doesn't add up.  Swartzneggar couldn't pull it off.

Just because he's Australian? You should be banned for indirectly flaming RolStoppable.



badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

It just doesn't add up.  Swartzneggar couldn't pull it off.

Just because he's Australian? You should be banned for indirectly flaming RolStoppable.

Arnold is Australian?  I just thought he was an amalgamation of buff coprses sewed together and hit with lightning.

 

Now i KNOW he couldn't pull it off.



Wait... he could have perfectly written this. He's been in the U.S for how long...? 30 years? That's enough....

Nonetheless, the is some funny stuff right here.



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