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r505Matt said:
The slim isn't so I've been told.

You'we been told wrong.

I can sense that you can't bring yourself to trust Sony not because of what you hear, cause as you can see what you hear is seldom correct, but because of what you feel. 

Guess what. You're a fanboy.

It's ok, I'm one too.



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I do not think this is really about integrity. I think this is a side impact of the large corporation. They are a bit like Oil tankers and take a long time to stop and turn around.

I think Microsoft are a good example of the its not the fault but how you handle the fault that matters. In this regards they did a good job especially for a large company, it does help in Microsofts case that they still had founders within the business and I think that helps making some tough decisions especially when it no longer is all about money.

I also think Sony have a similar fault with its console. It is smaller in comparison but it is still a manufacture/design fault which they are choosing to handle differently. In some respects they cannot do a Microsoft without the problem being blow out of proportion. I also think Sony suffers far more from the Oil tanker syndrome and take much longer to stop. This is mostly down to is managment structure/thinking which if we are to believe Stringer is being addressed.

In all honesty Sony are as credible and care as much as the average large corporation. They also have an avid fanbase almost akin to apple with regards to its products. If we asked the older generation of PS3 owners what make the TV was I betcha most say Sony.



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Well I was one of the early adopters so BC is still part of my ps3 set up (I just got a slim as my second console for the entertainment room). I also got YLOD and got my unit serviced for free (I was even out of warranty and they still fixed mine ); plus I got my new unit in less than 10 days. So I have no complaints about Sony and their customer service. I totally trust them, especially with all the block buster titles they have "unleashed" upon there console owning patrons. I never had a "bricked" unit and all updates work like charm across both unit(s) so far (knock on wood).



r505Matt said:
The slim isn't so I've been told.

The slim does still play ps1 games and the psn enabled ps1 games as well, you either do not have a ps3 and are a troll-or you just do not own any ps1 games to even test this theory out.



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Well, you've just simply decided that these latest guys who had a system brick after an update are for real. You have no proof of anything (niether do they btw), and Sony themselves have said that it was a coincidence that it happened after an update.
That story is simply a couple of guys who have heard about FW issues in the past (which were all fixed by Sony), and decided that it had also happened to them even though Sony told them it didn't.

The reason I ask if "this is a troll", is because at least to me, this is old news being spread around mostly by forum goers. This is bad word of mouth. Additionally, it is free to do this. Maybe you really are just new to the forum scene but from my experience, there are a lot of "employees" on the net's forumz. These employees go around advocating buying one system over another and usually do it through FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt).

For example, the stories of RROD. Some people claim 13 of them or more. Usually the never say something like "that's why I recommend a competitor's console", like you did. But they do.

The point is that it's just very hard believing someone who is ready to believe a couple guys on the internet, rather than intuition, common sense, or the company's official statement.



libellule said:
r505Matt said:

 

And no backwords compatibility anymore? Come on. I still play some PS1 games (For whatever reason I LOVE Einhander).

I don't know, without jumping at my throat, can anyone point out some things that make Sony a credible company when it coms to integrity and taking care of their customer base?


the first thing I said to me reading your post :

1/ wow, 13 post and already a rant thread ... why not.

2/ einhander ? what a great game !!! I like this guy !!!

3/ reading another post : hey, but PS3 can read PS1 game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/ Am I wasting my time on this thread ? ...


1, Why not indeed =P

2, it really is, I think I'll play it later

3, By backwards compatibility I did mean PS2 games as well (which every article I've read says the Slim doesn't do, so sorry if they are all wrong), not just PS1. A lot of people missed this.

4, Most likely =)

 

@Welsh, that's fair to say I guess, Microsoft is a bigger company, and they can cover up a mistake like that more easily.

@avarice, think I made it obvious that I don't own s PS3, did you only read part of the post?



Lolz that's just preposterous. In very few cases has an update screwed up somebodys system. That 360 fanboy propaganda.



theprof00 said:
Well, you've just simply decided that these latest guys who had a system brick after an update are for real. You have no proof of anything (niether do they btw), and Sony themselves have said that it was a coincidence that it happened after an update.
That story is simply a couple of guys who have heard about FW issues in the past (which were all fixed by Sony), and decided that it had also happened to them even though Sony told them it didn't.

The reason I ask if "this is a troll", is because at least to me, this is old news being spread around mostly by forum goers. This is bad word of mouth. Additionally, it is free to do this. Maybe you really are just new to the forum scene but from my experience, there are a lot of "employees" on the net's forumz. These employees go around advocating buying one system over another and usually do it through FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt).

For example, the stories of RROD. Some people claim 13 of them or more. Usually the never say something like "that's why I recommend a competitor's console", like you did. But they do.

The point is that it's just very hard believing someone who is ready to believe a couple guys on the internet, rather than intuition, common sense, or the company's official statement.


I don't completely disagree, it's hard to sift through all the misinformation, and I can only go by what I hear. If 50 people say one thing, and another 50 say the opposite, how do I determine for myself which is true/right? So someone said I was going by what I feel, so that's probably correct.

But I also show doubt. "Whether this is actually the case or not, its still pretty bad PR to release an update, and whether it causes problems or not, make it known that customers will have to pay up to $150 for repairs. I don't really believe in coincidences."

Perception is just as important as reality in making judgements.



Well I'm very happy what sony is doing recently.
the games are great and varied and there's still lot of potentially awesome games coming.
the online has been and will allways be free which I like, no amount of extra service will make me pay for playing a game online with my friends.

My ps3 has never had any problems with the firmware updates, in reliability it's propably the best console I have ever owned...and it has a small failrate overall. What I've read from the news usually it's the 60gb model with backwards compatibility that fails.

You're worrying too much and you CAN play psone classics on it just not the ps2-games.