jarrod said:
Why would they base any decision on Japan, that's where KH sells the least? |
Actually it sells the least in others (Europe). It still sells a very sizeable amount in Japan, not as much as NA though.
jarrod said:
Why would they base any decision on Japan, that's where KH sells the least? |
Actually it sells the least in others (Europe). It still sells a very sizeable amount in Japan, not as much as NA though.
| Soriku said: I thought FF was their best franchise. |
That and Dragon Quest, though Kingdom Hearts is a major seller for them too. Why not get more cash for a smaller I.P. along with FF & DQ? Square loves cash anyways.
SnowFlow said:
Actually it sells the least in others (Europe). It still sells a very sizeable amount in Japan, not as much as NA though. |
No KH SKU has even broken a million in Japan before. KH1 was a million seller in Europe though, and KH2 hit 700k (which is about what it did in Japan).
The general point still stand though, when 75% of KH's sales come from outside Japan, why base any platform decisions on that region first?
This topic should be banned till KH3 is actually annnouced...wat..like 10 times now,...THERE IS NO WAY TO JUDGE IS GOING BECAUSE ALL WERE DOING IS USING TODAY AS JUDGEMENT!!!! KH3 wont be here till 3-4 years and we have kno idea wat it Console power will look like then...
jarrod said:
You have to admit, Keyblade = Wiimote could be a pretty attractive selling point for the family friendly casual masses. And really, the family friendly casuals are KH's big audience in the west... |
Versus it's practically Kingdom hearts.
it have the director, the team and the music and it's an action rpg like KH.
and ps3 also have motion controls now.
so for now only reason to put it on the wii would trying to target a different demographic, maybe lower development cost
but considering FF13 it's creating just that on the HD console may go HD reusing some assets from Versus, white engine, and still getting motions controls from the ps3.
Xoj said:
Versus it's practically Kingdom hearts. it have the director, the team and the music and it's an action rpg like KH. and ps3 also have motion controls now. so for now only reason to put it on the wii would trying to target a different demographic, maybe lower development cost but considering FF13 it's creating just that on the HD console may go HD reusing some assets from Versus, white engine, and still getting motions controls from the ps3. |
Versus is probably the best case as to why PS3 won't get KH3 imo... it's already been in development for near 3 years and no release is in sight (people are guessing end of 2010 at the earliest, 2011 likely even). If anything, I'd say Versus is probably the more "core oriented" replacement for what would've been KH3 PS3. It's also why I suspect KH3 might just be held back until next gen instead, since we're bound to start seeing new consoles by 2012. We'll get a KH on Wii for sure, but it might not be KH3.
Also, there's the distinct possibility Swand won't sell enough to make AAA games developed for it worthwhile. Look at EyeToy, it moved like 3 million and how many SE games did that get? Hell, look at the Wii Balance Board, it has a near PS3 level install base (well over 20m) and hasn't gotten a SE game either.
I'd also argue Wii's not so much a different demographic, 70% of Wii owners had a PS2 according to NPD. Wii holds the casual demographic now.
jarrod said:
Versus is probably the best case as to why PS3 won't get KH3 imo... it's already been in development for near 3 years and no release is in sight (people are guessing end of 2010 at the earliest, 2011 likely even). If anything, I'd say Versus is probably the more "core oriented" replacement for what would've been KH3 PS3. It's also why I suspect KH3 might just be held back until next gen instead, since we're bound to start seeing new consoles by 2012. We'll get a KH on Wii for sure, but it might not be KH3. Also, there's the distinct possibility Swand won't sell enough to make AAA games developed for it worthwhile. Look at EyeToy, it moved like 3 million and how many SE games did that get? Hell, look at the Wii Balance Board, it has a near PS3 level install base (well over 20m) and hasn't gotten a SE game either. I'd also argue Wii's not so much a different demographic, 70% of Wii owners had a PS2 according to NPD. Wii holds the casual demographic now. |
Uhh....Versus is the BEST reason as to why KH3 would end up on the PS3. The KH team is specifically working on getting their engine and game optimized for the PS3's architecture. Then afterwards, making another game won't take that much time. It's just like what Kazunori said about GT6. Something to the tune of:
"With GT5, we worked from scratch, and from the bottom up. That's why it took so long. You won't have to wait as long for GT6 as you did GT5 because we'll just be adding assets and a few tweaks to the next version"

BMaker11 said:
Uhh....Versus is the BEST reason as to why KH3 would end up on the PS3. The KH team is specifically working on getting their engine and game optimized for the PS3's architecture. Then afterwards, making another game won't take that much time. It's just like what Kazunori said about GT6. Something to the tune of: "With GT5, we worked from scratch, and from the bottom up. That's why it took so long. You won't have to wait as long for GT6 as you did GT5 because we'll just be adding assets and a few tweaks to the next version"
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Had Versus released in 2008-2009, I'd agree. The timing just doesn't work now though, and we have a 2nd dedicated KH team now too (who's made PS2/PSP games while Versus took up the original team the past few years). That's why I think KH3's unlikely this gen.... in a real sense, FFXIII's huge budget and demands stole it.
There's also the Disney influence, it's ultimately their IP remember. We'll see a Wii game, even if it's not "Kingdom Hearts 3".
jarrod said:
Had Versus released in 2008-2009, I'd agree. The timing just doesn't work now though, and we have a 2nd dedicated KH team now too (who's made PS2/PSP games while Versus took up the original team the past few years). That's why I think KH3's unlikely this gen.... in a real sense, FFXIII's huge budget and demands stole it. There's also the Disney influence, it's ultimately their IP remember. We'll see a Wii game, even if it's not "Kingdom Hearts 3". |
probably not on this wii, but maybe next nintendo console that's what u mean?, nintendo only have gotten handheld spin off like 358/2 days and chains of memories (later remade with better graphics on the ps2). at most u can hope it's another spinoff?.
if true KH team its working on versus, not able to do another game before gen ends, ps3-4 may get KH 3 also it' doesn't rule out that possibility especially the huge sales are expected for FF13. recent price cut and tech announce make sony even more relevant to get a main line KH than nintendo.
Xoj said:
probably not on this wii, but maybe next nintendo console that's what u mean?, nintendo only have gotten handheld spin off like 358/2 days and chains of memories (later remade with better graphics on the ps2). at most u can hope it's another spinoff?. if true KH team its working on versus, not able to do another game before gen ends, ps3-4 may get KH 3 also it' doesn't rule out that possibility especially the huge sales are expected for FF13. recent price cut and tech announce make sony even more relevant to get a main line KH than nintendo.
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No, I mean Wii will get an original KH ARPG from the "B team". Like Birth By Sleep on PSP. Not a spinoff really, but not a numbered entry either.
I think we won't see KH3 until next gen, and by then who knows where it'll go.