^Nintendo never launches first, except with the NES, since the console market didn't exist anymore after the crash and Nintendo had to rebuild it.

Also Wii is the first time since the NES that they've enjoyed this dominance, the SNES won but it was not anywhere near as successful as the NES.  Wii is more like NES than Nintendo's other consoles

We're arguing because you haven't given a good reason for 2011, for every tradition you name I can raise a counter, and its just bad business

How is it bad buisness to launch a new platform in 2011? Think about it a second, Microsoft and Sony will both probubly launch their next consoles in 2010-2011. Its definatly not good buisness for Microsoft to hold on to a sinking ship, the 360 is rapidly shrinking in market share. So we can expect a new Microsoft console any year now.

Then Nintendo itself is beginning to loose steam, the hardware sales are dropping in comparison to Sony's PS3. Even Nintendo's price cut had very little affect on the dip in sales. So yes in 2010 Nintendo might be able to claw itself back to where it was earlier this year but thats doubtfull. So with a shrinking user base Nintendo will have the oppertunity to build on the Wii's momentum by unleashing another platform.

You say its bad buisness to compete? How is it good buisness to let the competition go unchallenged?

I think it is cool.  I like it.  It looks interesting what they are doing.

In regards to Wii HD, WHY do we need one?  I keep hearing how hardcore gamers hate motion control.  So how exactly does making motion control High def improve anything? 

Zelda Spirit Tracks looked like crap to me, but this show actually got me interested.

NSMB Wii is is looking sweeter and sweeter all the time.

And lol at a Wii HD.. Maybe Sony should have released a PS2HD right in the middle of its lifecycle, brilliant! I say 2012 at the earliest for the next nintendo console. Any earlier would be completely cutting off the Wii's momentum.

@ joecool

Old platform is selling more than competitors and making profits, killing it isn't smart, they can wait a year after their competitors then launch, that would be the best move.

Nintendo is losing steam, lol, maybe from last year, but they are still selling more than the PS2 did at this time in its lifespan, so they fell from monumental, to just amazing, that's no reason to kill the prize pig. Also PS3 may be higher than it was before, but will it last, MS will cut again soon as well, and Wii will be getting better software, so a couple of months of good sales for the PS3 is hardly reason for Nintendo to worry, especially when they are still leading on a weekly basis.

How does a userbase shrink? It only grows, unless people start throwing away their systems, their userbase may be growing slower, but its still growing faster than any other console ever.

Who says about letting them go unchallenged, let them launch first, both PS4 and 720, then a year later them, launch in response, much like Wii did.

Some do, some are just graphics whores and hate the Wii for not having "good" graphics (yet still praise PS2 games).

I don't see what the big deal is.  Does HD graphics improve everything?  IMO, not in this case.

This has got to be unprecendented; The Market leader being brow beat by gaming media and journalists about 'going HD'. The next console will be HD but not Wii, nor does it need to be it is the most successful console this gen without HD.

Something feels a bit off with all this 'pressure' and marketing gaming media outlets are putting on Nintendo in regards to this.

I never said Nintendo should kill the Wii. In my opinion the Wii will still be selling in 2016. The Wii will likely have a 10 year life cycle, does that mean Nintendo should hold off on a next generation platform for 10 years? Look at the PS2 it was selling really well when Sony launched the PS3. Or how about the X-Box, sales were starting to grow stronger but Microsoft still launched the 360.

Did the PS3 kill the PS2?, No the PS2 is still selling tens of thousands of units every week. The Wii would continue selling regardless of whether Nintendo released another platform. Nintendo could aim the Wii at the casual market and cut its price way down. Selling it to non-gamers and casuals while the hardcore and early adopters would rush to the stores to pick up Nintendo's latest console!

It is never smart to get too greedy and milk your cash cow into a coma. Yes the Wii is selling stronger then PS2 was at this point in its life cycle, but who says that will be the case in 2011 and even if it is the case , why would it be smart for Nintendo to stick with the Wii rather then launch a whole new platform?

I'm sorry I mean market share not user base. Nintendo's marketshare is beginning to fail, sure Wii is selling better then PS2 was at this point but PS3/360 are also selling better then GCN/X-Box at this point. That is not justification for all three hardware manufacturers to hold out longer and longer.

fact is it is in Microsoft's best interest to launch the next X-Box in 2010 and its in Nintendo's best interest to launch in 2011!

^Releasing an "HD Wii" would kill the Wii

PS2 didn't die because of the lack of BW compatibility and the extremely high price, Nintendo wouldn't do either stupid thing, we already know it' be BW compatible and will be around $250.

That's a terrible Idea, Wii was a success because of the expanded market, why would they try and exclude that from their next console. Have you been paying attention to why Nintendo has been a success and their goals?

Yes it would be smart, why would they launch before their competitors? Think about it, they are in the lead, let their competitors scramble to launch first, Nintendo will come in and smash them, plus they can't steal Nintendo's ideas if they are already launched.

Profit is reason to hold out until all of your competitors launch or until something they release becomes a real threat, right now nothing that Sony and MS are releasing is a threat

What about Sony? Even if 720 launches in 2010, why should Nintendo launch in 2011, they should wait until after the PS4 launches, they have no reason to launch until after the PS4, plus why should they give Sony a chance to copy them?