Well id and Infinity Ward, I liked you guys back when you were good. You guys can go fuck yourselves now.

 Both are, actually. It is a matter of context and usage. Procrastinato was basically arguing semantics.

 From a technical standpoint, he was correct to state that there is no server in a true peer to peer networking model. However people describe MW2 system as peer2peer for lack of a better term to fully convey the idea that not only will MW2 be hosted by the end-user, but will be hosted from the same game client you play the game from. This is accepted usage typically, for the simple reason that while you could use more technically accurate terms for MW2 type system, it would be even more confusing to people who generally know little or nothing about such things.

I am going to try to factor in the Pros and Cons of all sides here.

Dedicated Servers:

* Enable the community to tweak and mod, and play their creations

* Enable pirates to play their games, without getting caught

* Enable playing games without getting hit with ads.

Non-Dedicated:
* Better control over the game environment, to make sure it doesn't get out of wack, and people cheat

* Crack down on piracy, forcing only legal copy of the games to be played.

* Generate ad revenues and other streams of income, by forcing all traffic to a common community point.  This also helps players find new players.

So, you plan on playing MAG on a dedicated server somewhere you are going to run and create mods for?

It is all about the money now.  If there is a need to crack down on piracy, then you can expect things from the past to go.

I'm STILL going to be getting this game, as it looks to be hot!

I wonder how they will fare. Let me put it this way. Friken Firaxis bent their head on spore DRM when they tried to protect the game from pirates. I don't know if you've heard of them but their games have sold more than just about all Activision only games to have come out combined. They bent dwon to the customers. You honestly osme fucks like IW won't get hammered an annhilated by piracy? You sir, are wrong.

There are much better ways to cut down on piracy.

Not sure you're first point for cons is right.  IW have stated that without dedicated servers there will be no kicking.  I agree non-dedicated allows for better control, but you're also only reliant on the cheating SW then.  And as we know plenty of cheating/exploits goes on despite the anti-cheat SW.  With dedicated servers, you can have admins on who can literally kick and ban right there and there - therefore I'd argue that a dedicated servers with online admins playing is the best environment for stopping cheating.

Also dedicated servers can (and mostly do) stay on 24x7, which makes it much easier to build an online community of players who know each other and play together often.