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badgenome said:
madskillz said:

Dude, I don't have a problem when someone has a difference of opinion. What I am marveling at is how totally clueless these folks are. It reminds me of Jim Jones. Maybe that's what they need.

You know, it's ok to be a sore loser, but this is insanity. And since they are against gov't-run healthcare, the violence that happens next will land them in a hospital on our dime - because their pitiful health coverage will not cover a sharp blow to the head - will call it a *pre-existing condition* and the bill will continue to rise.

If that's the case, pull the plug. I don't want to waste money on someone who hates the health care anyway. The Kool-Aid is much faster, IMHO.

One insane sign doesn't make an entire movement insane. Otherwise...

As for "the violence that happens next", I have no idea what that's even supposed to mean.

Do you really expect a peaceful outcome to come about from these protests? Seriously - it will end violently. Maybe I am wrong, but all of this foolishness is won't calm down until O is assassinated or the like. What about those 9 fools arrested in Pelosi's office?

And where were these jackasses when Bush and Co. were raping this country blind?

I am glad I have freedom of expression, but these fools are taking it to another level.

Tell you what - let's both go to a tea party rally - and I bet they won't roll a welcome mat out for me.

Seen this crap all of my life and it makes me vomit.



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madskillz said:

Tell you what - let's both go to a tea party rally - and I bet they won't roll a welcome mat out for me.

I see. Well, I guess when you wear race-tinted glasses, everything is racial.

I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet, and I also don't recall seeing much outrage about that at the time... certainly not from the people who are currently freaking out over the "hate-filled teabaggers".

Maybe it makes you feel good about yourself to look at the looniest example of "the other side", because then you just know they have to be wrong. I dunno, but it's a really poor way to go about things, IMO.



I do love these partiers. They highlight the irrational tendencies of the far right in this country.

 

Though i'm saddened that they're just being used by the media to help lower the discourse to shouting, instead of an intelligent discussion of what might be wrong about the current direction of the Obama Administration.



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badgenome said:
madskillz said:

Tell you what - let's both go to a tea party rally - and I bet they won't roll a welcome mat out for me.

I see. Well, I guess when you wear race-tinted glasses, everything is racial.

I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet, and I also don't recall seeing much outrage about that at the time... certainly not from the people who are currently freaking out over the "hate-filled teabaggers".

Maybe it makes you feel good about yourself to look at the looniest example of "the other side", because then you just know they have to be wrong. I dunno, but it's a really poor way to go about things, IMO.

So, you quote a random blog and say Obama hasn't gotten anything as bad? So, I guess the Secret Service assigned to him when he was a candidate was standard operating procedure too? That was the first time in history something like that has happened that early in the process.

As you said, you don't have to go far to see this foolishness. In Houston, 10,000 tea baggers were protesting. Plus, we had several thousand fools protest here a couple times.

They are just looking like immature brats, seriously. If it's so sad, they can use their constitutional rights and exit the country, stage left.

 



madskillz said:
badgenome said:
madskillz said:

Tell you what - let's both go to a tea party rally - and I bet they won't roll a welcome mat out for me.

I see. Well, I guess when you wear race-tinted glasses, everything is racial.

I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet, and I also don't recall seeing much outrage about that at the time... certainly not from the people who are currently freaking out over the "hate-filled teabaggers".

Maybe it makes you feel good about yourself to look at the looniest example of "the other side", because then you just know they have to be wrong. I dunno, but it's a really poor way to go about things, IMO.

So, you quote a random blog and say Obama hasn't gotten anything as bad? So, I guess the Secret Service assigned to him when he was a candidate was standard operating procedure too? That was the first time in history something like that has happened that early in the process.

As you said, you don't have to go far to see this foolishness. In Houston, 10,000 tea baggers were protesting. Plus, we had several thousand fools protest here a couple times.

They are just looking like immature brats, seriously. If it's so sad, they can use their constitutional rights and exit the country, stage left.

 

As I said, "I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet." Whether it's out there or not, I don't know. What I do know is that the anti-Obama signs people have had fits over are so much tamer than the vileness directed at Bush in the link above that I'm forced to conclude that, if it were out there, we'd have seen it trotted out to try and discredit anybody who thinks that this massively corrupt, criminally incompetent government might not be cut out to reform health care in any meaningful way.

But given your penchant for displays of extreme racial paranoia (LEFT 4 DEAD 2 IS RACIST!!1111111111) and your tearful fangirl attachment to Obama, I reckon it's an exercise in futility to discuss this any further. So, later.



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Its such a weak argument to compare anything to the Nazis or the Holocaust. That situation was unique historically.



badgenome said:
madskillz said:
badgenome said:
madskillz said:

Tell you what - let's both go to a tea party rally - and I bet they won't roll a welcome mat out for me.

I see. Well, I guess when you wear race-tinted glasses, everything is racial.

I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet, and I also don't recall seeing much outrage about that at the time... certainly not from the people who are currently freaking out over the "hate-filled teabaggers".

Maybe it makes you feel good about yourself to look at the looniest example of "the other side", because then you just know they have to be wrong. I dunno, but it's a really poor way to go about things, IMO.

So, you quote a random blog and say Obama hasn't gotten anything as bad? So, I guess the Secret Service assigned to him when he was a candidate was standard operating procedure too? That was the first time in history something like that has happened that early in the process.

As you said, you don't have to go far to see this foolishness. In Houston, 10,000 tea baggers were protesting. Plus, we had several thousand fools protest here a couple times.

They are just looking like immature brats, seriously. If it's so sad, they can use their constitutional rights and exit the country, stage left.

 

As I said, "I haven't seen anything this extreme directed at Obama yet." Whether it's out there or not, I don't know. What I do know is that the anti-Obama signs people have had fits over are so much tamer than the vileness directed at Bush in the link above that I'm forced to conclude that, if it were out there, we'd have seen it trotted out to try and discredit anybody who thinks that this massively corrupt, criminally incompetent government might not be cut out to reform health care in any meaningful way.

But given your penchant for displays of extreme racial paranoia (LEFT 4 DEAD 2 IS RACIST!!1111111111) and your tearful fangirl attachment to Obama, I reckon it's an exercise in futility to discuss this any further. So, later.

Can you read? Did you even read my editorial? Where - show me - did I ever call the game racist? Your memory has fooled you. Please, provide the link to where I called the game racist. And I do remember your kind words to me - never got a chance to thank you for your extreme hate.

And just because I voted for Obama doesn't make me a fanboy-fangirl. Where did I say 'Oh, I love Obama so much!' Because I based Bush for being an idiot?

You should get out more and realize just because someone bashes another person doesn't automatically put them in the other person's camp.

Has Obama made mistakes? Yeah. Is he perfect or the Messiah? No. However, he was handed a glorified mess and for him to make some kind of progress is a task in itself.

 



Freaking fascists haha. I must say the extreme right sure is becoming desperate with things like this. Instead of actually holding a logical and formidable opinion they seek scare tactics. Which is why I consider most of them to be fascists. Although they like to attribute themselves closer to libertarians (some of the crazier ones to with the extreme conspiracies) I know most of them aren't even near that realm and indeed from the last administration know exactly where to place them... neo-fascists haha.

But really this so offensive. 6 million people die in the Holocaust and we have people relating that to this. Your lack of understanding and comprehension shows that the we haven't learned from history whatsoever.

As someone else said in this thread, there are ways to discuss things without using scare tactics similar to that of discussion during and after the 9/11 tactics. Extreme right and extreme left as well need to stop trying to polarize their ideals to get the masses. This is exactly what Madison spoke of in the violence of factions and apparently our media who gives these people any credence whatsoever has forgotten about it.


I think, though, the thing that angers me the most about something like this is it fuels a one-sided debate. Because anytime Obama administration gets criticism it is overshadowed by things like this. Thus those who have logical and reasonable dissent don't get their message across and no one sane takes the things they say credibly. They just really don't know how much harm they due to their actual cause... of course I doubt these extremists know too much of anything. I just wish they'd stop trying to attach themselves to my ideology, libertarianism, as a way to further their agenda. That's offensive to me and other true libertarians... and yes that means you Glenn Beck.



There are animal rights activists who think eating meat is worse then the holocaust.

Does that mean animals deserve no rights.

People paying attention to such things is really nothing more but trying to create a strawman argument of BS because you can't be bothered to actually hold an honest discussion on an issue because it requires being open and actually learning about said issue.



I have a hard time caring about this considering it is just a few signs in a sea of signs.  Particularly when both sides engage in crazy-bombing opposing protests (ie posing as a lefty/righty with extreme views to soak up media coverage and make the opposing protest look crazy).

What I'm surprised at is that people constantly bring up these no-name/nobody examples like it makes a point.  I mean I can simply point out that the lefty PAC LaRouche compares Obama to Hitler as a stated position...it's like a friggin policy for them. 


My point with that goes no further than there are extremist willing to make absurd connections on both sides and they come in all forms, both organized and unorganized.  Do we really need a thread every time joe random holds up a hitler/holocaust/etc... sign? Does it really make a difference if he is a lefty or a righty, whether or not he supports Obamacare, or really anything else...once the comparison is made isn't the person just simply crazy and nothing more?

It just seems a bit like folks are trying to go to this punching bag way too often. 

 



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