@XOJ

dude that was back in 2007, everyone was saying PS3 sucked back then and they should just start all over, you got any 2008 or 2009 articles?

Did they say the PS3 couldn't run their games, or that they wouldn't be able to optimize them well enough to stand up to their level of accepted quality, given certain constraints, like speculatively, time.

Also, I thought TOB on the PS3 was the worst version, with lag and graphical hitches, due to it not being ported by Valve?

I'm asking. I never knew they said the PS3 wasn't powerful enough to run their games. When did they say that?

Dont forget this

"I'm betting that by Christmas of next year, the Wii has a larger installed base than the 360. Other people think I'm crazy."

OH NOES HES ANTI 360 TIME TO BURN VALUE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!111

Seriously, The man knows what hes talking about.

Yeah.. where are those Valve shooters on the Wii?

Maybe the average Wii owner isn't old enough for them yet?  I know that sounds harsh (on the Wii), but lets face it -- there's almost insurmountable evidence now that the Wii demographic is so blue ocean that it doesn't attract a serious number of shooter players.

So.. I have to question what he means by "installed base"... because he can't be talking "shooter demographics", at this point.  Given that Valve makes, well, shooters, I would wager that your quote is grossly out of context, or just plain another example of Valve's outrageous statements.

I think the PS3 IS hard to develop for. Even the Gearbox guy said that. He said it was a challenge, and fun.

I would present most multiplats over the past few years, as proof, and several over the past few months, along with the fact that the PS3 has honestly much better hardware than the 360, but has rarely been able to put out equal multiplats, much less superior.

Or are you implying that every developer has, by coincidence, been lazy and sloth when developer their PS3 versions of their multiplats, and that the PS3 is as simple to develop for as the notoriously easy to develop for 360 and PC platforms?

Of course it's more difficult to develop for. Developers have finally developed toolsets and learned the console enough so they can develop well on the console, but it certainly wasn't as easy to develop for as the 360, a few years ago when that knowledge didn't exist.

I never heard GTA4 was inferior but the other 2 yes. I'm saying its possible to make PS3 ports as good as 360 games it just takes some effort, something a lot of devs don't seem to want to put in. Any time a multiplat game is worse on PS3 then 360 I'm going to assume the developers are either bad or lazy. 

"More difficult" is relative.  Don't make me explain that, man.

It just isn't that hard for a skilled engineer who can read SDK docs.  PS3 ports used to be cruddy because it was EASY to port games to the PS3, as long as you took a quality hit.  Thus publishers paid for the cheap port, and PS3 gamers suffered, because publishers believed they could get more bang/buck for a quickie.

The reason devs have made shoddy ports to the PS3 is because they weren't given the money to port the game -- which would have also hurt the 360 version, had it not been the lead SKU on so many crossplat games.  Devs are not EVER lazy.  Even Valve's engineers, who, btw, are not Gabe Newell.  Trust me on this one.

@procasintato

Value ment install base by number of console sold, not how old the average gamer is. The ONLY reason why Value games are on 360 is cause 360 is just as easy to program for as the PC is, simple port, thats why L4D2 has meh graphics and isnt 60 fps nor 1080p.

don't move the goals, he did trash talked ps3, and they keep saying the same about the ps3 for the past year, it just changed from disaster to it's hard to develop for.

and i didn't see anyone going as far as a disaster, they had to redo it etc, u asked for when they talked trash i delivered.

Actually I was knocking Insomniac because I got them confused with Naughty Dog. Get my past screwups right! lol

Also, why must we continually bring up my past misakes.

Anyway, yeah, if you don't like a company, don't give them your business.