pro evo sells a shit load in europe, it doesn't sell in the US. (japan likes it too)

The state of the US game market is completely disgusting right now. First of all you have the PS3, the best value for your money Game console ever made selling well below a rushed deffective system and 5 year old tech with built in WiFi and Motion controll. Then you have a game which is a decent title in Halo3 pushing like 3.3m units in 3 weeks when a game like Bioshock comes out on the same system to much better user and critcal acclaim and ends up selling 1/4 the amount of units. At this point in time I am completely lost as what has happened to the industry. Nintendo sure has disrupted it, but to what cost will it be. Even as an avid PS3 fanboy I have got to blame this big problem on Sony.

Sony is the video game industry, and their is no arguing that. However in the last year they have completly droped the ball and it is letting everyone else, but Nintendo down. It is not that the PS3 was to expensive or they are not focused enough on games or any of the other crap that people like to bring up. The problem is Sony has (no words bad enough to explain it) marketing. Up until the PS3 came out Sony was doing marketing like a man possesed. Everytime a game like Black, Burnout, Tony Hawk, Madden, ATV vs MX, or any other 3rd party game came out their was great marketing and a PS2 at the end. Everyone knew about the good games cause Sony helped the devs get them showcased, and Sony put their consoles name on it. So far in the Era of the PS3, Sony has forgotten completely about all of that. All Summer long I watched Baseball games on Fox, and ESPN and I can not even remember any commercials for the PS3. In fact I have only see the HS commercials, since the end of the confusing white room BS. If this gen is to start turning around it is all on Sony's sholders. If they can not learn how to market the PS3 and how to help out these 3rd parties the way they did in the past, it is going to be a long dreadful, period for all developers.

Well, guys, what's new?

1) I think many would argue the PS3 is the WORST value for your money game console, if not ever made, at least of this generation.

2) There's no arguing Sony is the video game industry?  I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, EA and others WOULD argue that.  Sony was the video game industry, for two generations.  So was Atari at one point.

Its still $80 here in Australia at some retailers - and $100 in others.

Considering our dollar is now 90c US+ - and there are LOTS of Wii titles for $70 or less - yes its too much.

It seems to me to be an excellent WiiWare, $10 title. I might even pay $50 for it. I won't pay $80 for it. That's what RE4, SPM and a heap of other games cost here. 

QTF.

1/ In terms of "experience per dollar", the PS3 is easily the worst. It can't get close to any other console - let alone the DS, PS2 or even Wii.

2/ Sony has never been the game industry. Atari was at one point - and only Nintendo & EA can really hold that flag. Apart from the lack of competition, if Sony vanished from the industry - the industry would NOT vanish. It would diminish - but that could be said for just about every publisher out there. 

ps3 is the best value in hardware, it is the worst value in fun. Blu ray has a poor selection of movies compared to dvd and the games available on ps3 are shitty or on 360 already. So yeah.

@Shams: Since when have football games sold sold in the US? I wouldn't expect good NA sales for PES or FIFA.
I think Elite Beat Agents is more like a game for PAL regions, mostly Europe, not that much a game for North-America.
Rockstar table tennis, did anyone really expect this to sell? Everyone knows, that its a game where you run around town headless and beat people to death with a table tennis racket (club, racket??) and Manhunt 2 is on its way.
Tony Hawk, does it interest anyone anymore, there's just too many Tony Hawk games, and anyway, as a casual title, this fit better for the European market.

And i think that the generation change has something to do with declining sales. Also it doesn't help, that the consoles are so expensive, that leaves less money to spend on games after you bought the console and you have to save money a lot longer time, than before. But i do agree, that people propably are starting to get bored in sequels that offer you nothing new, and to crappy license games, which only purpose is to rip you off just because you were so dumb to buy the game because of its familiar movie/sports/cartoon franchise.

@Montana&Rocketpig: I think it's funny to see how you say PSX being the best console, since N64 and Saturn both had better games than PSX. But fine, it's your opinion.
And the home of casual gaming revolution is Europe, with the japanese Sony. PSX wasn't a console, which lured 30M million gamers to gaming, it a console, that lured 30M non-gamers...

@Sinha: This was about NA sales, not WW.

 Agreed. I think it would worth of mentioning, that even Sony have provided tools (which have become popular) it has never been the driving force in the industry.