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Torillian said:
Spedfrom said:
And the japanese complain they are being left behind... What do you expect when even your game creators behave like perma-horny teens and are allowed to show that in their games, game after game? Bayonetta is another recent example.

This industry needs to grow up. Collectively.

Just because an industry grows up doesn't mean there's no place for a game like this.  Yes they have alot of sexual connotations, but that's what makes them so hilarious.  Ar Tonelico 2 was exactly the same way, and it was funny as hell.

@Millenium: I see nothing from the current information that I didn't expect, so what exactly did they change that ruined it for you as a fan of the first two titles? 

I absolutely agree with the first sentence. The problem is the current reality where it is hard to be taken seriously and these games make it worse. There isn't enough professionalism. It seems as though games are made by whims and semi-conscious desires and fantasies of men who forgot to grow up.

There aren't enough women in the industry, we need their visions and input. The scoring system should be used as every other is, 5 as the average, yet people can't help themselves in hyping everything. The people working in game design, script writing, interface desgin, etc, should have formal education. If you're creating looks for characters, you should consult fashion advisers, if you're creating a game set in the 1800's, you should consult historical records.

Less hobbie, more industry.



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Lately everyone is doing it

This
Capcom's Dark Side chronicles, says that looking at the shape of your friend's ass is important (kinda like MGS1)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 bouncing boobs thing.
Peace Walker Xray light thing.
No More Heroes.
ToV's funny sexual scenes

i agree with Spedfrom , they are funny, but by overdoing it, its hard to take them seriously.

lets see what Konami does next.

Edit : Nevermind



Spedfrom said:
Torillian said:
Spedfrom said:
And the japanese complain they are being left behind... What do you expect when even your game creators behave like perma-horny teens and are allowed to show that in their games, game after game? Bayonetta is another recent example.

This industry needs to grow up. Collectively.

Just because an industry grows up doesn't mean there's no place for a game like this.  Yes they have alot of sexual connotations, but that's what makes them so hilarious.  Ar Tonelico 2 was exactly the same way, and it was funny as hell.

@Millenium: I see nothing from the current information that I didn't expect, so what exactly did they change that ruined it for you as a fan of the first two titles? 

I absolutely agree with the first sentence. The problem is the current reality where it is hard to be taken seriously and these games make it worse. There isn't enough professionalism. It seems as though games are made by whims and semi-conscious desires and fantasies of men who forgot to grow up.

There aren't enough women in the industry, we need their visions and input. The scoring system should be used as every other is, 5 as the average, yet people can't help themselves in hyping everything. The people working in game design, script writing, interface desgin, etc, should have formal education. If you're creating looks for characters, you should consult fashion advisers, if you're creating a game set in the 1800's, you should consult historical records.

Less hobbie, more industry.

I disagree with everything except that it would be nice to have more women in the industry and perhaps the scoring system.  I have enjoyed far too many games from people without a formal education for me to require it for game makers, likewise I don't think it is at all necessary to be as accurate as to consult fashion designers. 

And sure there are some games like this that seem to be made based on men's baser desires, but they are not the majority.  There was never anything even remotely sexual about the interactions in Ico, Psychonauts, Demon's Souls, and Katamari Damacy.  Games like Ar Tonelico 3 are not the rule, they're the exception.



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@Torillian , i also agree here

also i like to note i played Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia , even though it got hilarious "Sexual" scenes , it isn't made for horny dudes, its actually more on the girly side.

its a beautiful game the guys who made it weren't thinking "oh lets make everyone sexual to sell more". i'd hope this is true to this too.

the game is clearly made for girls before guys , its also too easy.

Edit: no offense for manly men who played it



PullusPardus said:

 

lets see what Konami does next.

Edit : Nevermind

What the FUCK did they do to Maria? That game deserved to bomb.



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badgenome said:
PullusPardus said:

 

lets see what Konami does next.

Edit : Nevermind

What the FUCK did they do to Maria? That game deserved to bomb.

i don't know, it really ruined the characters for me.



PullusPardus said:

@Torillian , i also agree here

also i like to note i played Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia , even though it got hilarious "Sexual" scenes , it isn't made for horny dudes, its actually more on the girly side.

its a beautiful game the guys who made it weren't thinking "oh lets make everyone sexual to sell more". i'd hope this is true to this too.

the game is clearly made for girls before guys , its also too easy.

Edit: no offense for manly men who played it

I agree. This series isn't necessary geared entirely for men.



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Words Of Wisdom said:
I wanna see them when they move up from saving the world to saving the universe.

LOL!!