Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Have I not been speaking English in this thread?
Maybe I'm being a little complicated, allow me to simplify my argument.
1. Infinite and finite realms are two different things. For an infinite being to exist in a finite realm (our Universe) then it must adhere to the limitations in our Universe, therefore becoming limited by our time and power.
2. For an infinite being to create within our Universe then it become finite in order to interact with us, whether this is external or internal. (See Genesis being measured in periods of time argument)
3. If God created our universe then it must be finite to have done so. If god is finite then that must mean that at some point it didn't exist and at some point it will cease to exist. (This is a further catalist to the creators creator argument.)
4. Therefore two opposing conclusions can be drawn...
i. If God was an infinite being but created the finite Universe, then we must assume that God has had to become finite in order to interact or create it, therefore adhering to the same limitations as all beings within our Universe making it as mortal/fragil as you and I. So it can't move a rock of theoretical infinite size within our finite Universe.
ii. God is infinite and therefore can move any rock of any size, dimension or weight within an infinite realm. But this would make it unlikely that God is a creator of our Universe.
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I can write a complete computer program of a world. I am not then bound by the laws of this world. I'm not anymore finite then I was before I do it.
I think your logic is flawed.
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I can see where you're coming from Kasz, but I think you overlooked one factor. You are not a being that exists in a infinite world lol.
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No, but i'm a being who lives in a LESS finite world.
The confines of the world i created are less then of the world I live in.... such a world could not contain me.
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You've agreed with my hypothesis again.
Infinite and finite are two very different states Kasz. Think about it. In an infinite realm time, space and matter are infinite. For example, you could say that time does not exist in a realm that has infinite time because time has no "physical value" if that makes sense.
You are a finite being living in a finite world kasz, you can logically create a sub-realm that is less finite than yours, but you and it are still both finite.
What I'm saying is that an infinite being can't create a finite realm.
The thing is you're actually agreeing with my hypothesis Kasz, I just think you're playing devils advocate.
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Are you watching the Aston Villa match anyway? lol