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Cross-X said:
kowenicki said:
He can only be saying this if he knows something we dont... otherwise it isnt happening "soon" and he will be wrong

And im laughing at Cross-x and all the others complaining of MS arrogance... Sony arrogance at the outset of this gen and up until relatively mecently was staggering!

And here I thought you were one of the more rational and reasonable dudes around here...

So just because I've said that I hate MS arrogance here, does that make you think that I deny the arrogance of Sony? Who the hell said Sony wasn't arrogant? You think I'm some idiot who's trying to defend Sony and deny their arrogance or something?

It's not bloody rocket science to figure out that Sony is arrogant and it's not bloody rocket science to figure out that MS is arrogant. And yeh of course each company would say arrogant stuff coz its just business. Who gives a damn about whos more arrogant or not.

The fact that MS just made another arrogant comment made me say "I hate MS and their arrogance." Geez and since this topic deals with MS specifically, I only bought up my hate for MS arrogance. There would be no need for me to bring up the arrogance of Sony here. That can be said somewhere else, but not here.

You're the one making me laugh here mate...

 

 

Ok then, say 'Sony is arrogant and I hate Sony' and you'll probably make kowenicki happy.



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Squilliam said:
Cross-X said:
kowenicki said:
He can only be saying this if he knows something we dont... otherwise it isnt happening "soon" and he will be wrong

And im laughing at Cross-x and all the others complaining of MS arrogance... Sony arrogance at the outset of this gen and up until relatively mecently was staggering!

And here I thought you were one of the more rational and reasonable dudes around here...

So just because I've said that I hate MS arrogance here, does that make you think that I deny the arrogance of Sony? Who the hell said Sony wasn't arrogant? You think I'm some idiot who's trying to defend Sony and deny their arrogance or something?

It's not bloody rocket science to figure out that Sony is arrogant and it's not bloody rocket science to figure out that MS is arrogant. And yeh of course each company would say arrogant stuff coz its just business. Who gives a damn about whos more arrogant or not.

The fact that MS just made another arrogant comment made me say "I hate MS and their arrogance." Geez and since this topic deals with MS specifically, I only bought up my hate for MS arrogance. There would be no need for me to bring up the arrogance of Sony here. That can be said somewhere else, but not here.

You're the one making me laugh here mate...

 

 

Ok then, say 'Sony is arrogant and I hate Sony' and you'll probably make kowenicki happy.

Why should I make him happy? No point to it.

And I would be lying if I said 'I hate Sony.'

But I can say that I love Sony but I hate their arrogance and will never tolerate their arrogance... Ever.

 

 

 

 



Cross-X said:
Squilliam said:

Ok then, say 'Sony is arrogant and I hate Sony' and you'll probably make kowenicki happy.

Why should I make him happy? No point to it.

And I would be lying if I said 'I hate Sony.'

But I can say that I love Sony but I hate their arrogance and will never tolerate their arrogance... Ever.

 

 

 

 

You... love... a large multi-national company? Especially one whose track record indicates that the only difference between them and Microsoft is the power they wield. If Sony had as much power they would tread on as many toes.



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Squilliam said:
Cross-X said:
Squilliam said:

Ok then, say 'Sony is arrogant and I hate Sony' and you'll probably make kowenicki happy.

Why should I make him happy? No point to it.

And I would be lying if I said 'I hate Sony.'

But I can say that I love Sony but I hate their arrogance and will never tolerate their arrogance... Ever.

 

 

 

 

You... love... a large multi-national company? Especially one whose track record indicates that the only difference between them and Microsoft is the power they wield. If Sony had as much power they would tread on as many toes.

Ahh... Your point? Why are we discussing my Sony opinions here?



Cross-X said:
Squilliam said:

You... love... a large multi-national company? Especially one whose track record indicates that the only difference between them and Microsoft is the power they wield. If Sony had as much power they would tread on as many toes.

Ahh... Your point? Why are we discussing my Sony opinions here?

Obviously you are inferior to my logitech speaker system. Does that answer your question?



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Maybe the word 'love' should been replaced with the word 'like'. I only used the term 'love' since its the strong opposite to 'hate'.

And no I dont go loving companies that make good products. I dont love Apple though I love my iPhone. I don't love Samsung though I love my Samsung HDTV and laptop. Same with Sony. Same with Nintendo.

I just enjoy the products that companies manage to produce. Does that get my points across to you?

Kowenicki@ What exactly is your point?



madskillz said:
Dark Chaos said:
Vetteman94 said:
madskillz said:
Vetteman94 said:
madskillz said:
CGI-Quality said:
madskillz said:
kowenicki said:
He can only be saying this if he knows something we dont... otherwise it isnt happening "soon" and he will be wrong

And im laughing at Cross-x and all the others complaining of MS arrogance... Sony arrogance at the outset of this gen and up until relatively mecently was staggering!

Please, keep preaching. Some folks weren't in church yesterday. Muchas gracias.

They've both been heavily arrogant, but that's not to excuse Microsoft for doing so here.

So, it's ok for Sony to say people will go out and get two jobs to buy a PS3 OR they'd sell a 5-6 million consoles without games - and MS says 'They'll be in third, like they always were?'

Ok, he said it. Why are folks so sensitive? I don't see anything wrong with it. What about when Reggie said 'Not my problem?'

Over the PS3's 3 year span, I can't tell you the number of threads I've seen where folks are yappin' about the PS3's big break. I even remember when NJ5 had in his sig - PS3 domination starts in ... and there were several titles and events crossed out.

The PS3 is still in third. Yes, the console will cut into the 360s lead, but reality is - Sony is still losing tons of money. When the financials come out, they'll still won't see a profit. And to think Sony is going to dig itself out of the hole they dug - and keep this steady pace while the 360, which IS making $$$ for MS, just stops selling? Wow. I just grin so much when I see statements like that.

He can make statements like that because his console is making money, even if the sales aren't there, it's still making money while the PS3 is burning through it like zozobra.

Isnt the Xbox division $5.8B in the hole?   And has only turned a profit the last 2 quarters out of a 8+ year span.  

So until they have 2 successful generations while turning a profit in both can they make comments like that.

Uh, yeah, they can. They have the champ from the past two gens on the ropes - weathered the RROD drama - and erased a Sony comeback before with a meager price cut.

How many times will folks keep bringing up the SDF talking point - MS is $6B in the hole? Keep saying it if it makes you feel good and sleep better at night.

They paid $6B to overthrow a champ. And it was worth it for MS, sitting in second place and a sizable lead.

 

Uh no they cant,  they havent won any generation nor have they even come close to winning.   I dont see how you can call loosing $1B "weathered the RROD drama", since it still happens and now has a new name.   The Sony comeback before didnt mean anything,  console was far from the "sweet spot" as far as the consumer is concerned.    

The money issue will keep coming up when  people like you keep bringing up that Sony is loosing money.   Its a reminder that Microsoft is in a worse off position.

They paid $6B to fight off the reigning champ that hasnt gone down yet.   Still plenty of rounds left for Microsoft too loose this one. 


Hasn't gone down yet? What are you smoking. Going from 70% market share and Billions of profit to 20% marketshare and billions of loses isnt down enough??

There's no use in trying. Some folks will continue to spew SDF talking points until 2012. Then, it won't even matter.

Since when is qouting financial records only for SDF?   You had no problem bringing it up for Sony?  Oh I get it though,  it helped your arguement, and since mine was against your arguement it was SDF bullshit.  You were right that there is no use in trying,  there is no changing the mentality of people like you two. 



kowenicki said:
Cross-X said:
Squilliam said:
Cross-X said:
kowenicki said:
He can only be saying this if he knows something we dont... otherwise it isnt happening "soon" and he will be wrong

And im laughing at Cross-x and all the others complaining of MS arrogance... Sony arrogance at the outset of this gen and up until relatively mecently was staggering!

And here I thought you were one of the more rational and reasonable dudes around here...

So just because I've said that I hate MS arrogance here, does that make you think that I deny the arrogance of Sony? Who the hell said Sony wasn't arrogant? You think I'm some idiot who's trying to defend Sony and deny their arrogance or something?

It's not bloody rocket science to figure out that Sony is arrogant and it's not bloody rocket science to figure out that MS is arrogant. And yeh of course each company would say arrogant stuff coz its just business. Who gives a damn about whos more arrogant or not.

The fact that MS just made another arrogant comment made me say "I hate MS and their arrogance." Geez and since this topic deals with MS specifically, I only bought up my hate for MS arrogance. There would be no need for me to bring up the arrogance of Sony here. That can be said somewhere else, but not here.

You're the one making me laugh here mate...

 

 

Ok then, say 'Sony is arrogant and I hate Sony' and you'll probably make kowenicki happy.

Why should I make him happy? No point to it.

And I would be lying if I said 'I hate Sony.'

But I can say that I love Sony but I hate their arrogance and will never tolerate their arrogance... Ever.

 

 

 

 

I think you just made my point.   How the hell anyone can love a corporate entity is something I can never understand. 

One can very well love the ideoligy behind a company and how it has changed/contributed to the market, two good examples would be Apple and Google.



1337 Gamer said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
1337 Gamer said:
wow the fanboys are really out and running with this topic. You guys are pathetic honestly This comment was a bit arrogant but its PR for crying out loud. Both companies have done it and if your so offended by it then you really need to get a life outside of VGchartz. Everyone on all sides needs to just calm down your getting worked up over nothing.

The point is, Microsoft keeps doing it, and without any hint of remorse.  Almost as if its a tactic to try to draw in the other side (Sony and Nintendo) into some kind of PR catfight so they can then smear their name and then outdo them in marketing.

Its a tactic many have tried to implement before, including Microsoft many times over the years.

Its not called PR for nothing. While i dont condone Microsofts behavior the fact of the matter is every company does this and its just business and since when does it really matter to any of us. If its truly that big of a deal then SONY will respond back. We dont need to be the ones offended especially since this wasnt aimed at any of us.

Indeed, these statements from the MS PR branch is obviously directed at its Internet warriors and not rational people.

It's just sad that we indulge these big companies by spreading the PR, if only this piece of PR had been ignored like it deserves to be.



Squilliam said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Actually, we're playing into MS' hands: their goal is clearly to attract as much attention as they can to maximize games releases effects before Xmas. What a shame that the more they play this same old game, the more their credibility plummets.

One could argue that by replying to your foolish assertions im playing into your hands but luckily I will remember that you did this and your credibility will fall and I won't be as likely to fall into your trap again.

And I was good enough not mentioning the Xmas effect: MS PR behaving bad is the more despised by people the more Xmas gets close, that's also probably why Nintendo and Sony try avoiding it.

 



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